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Old 16. Dec 2014, 08:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm using the new look Yandex browser - still in Beta at the moment so take that into consideration. It has a redesigned user interface, minimalistic, but it also has features that allow you to put your own mark on the browser.

http://browser.yandex.com/future/

The browser has a start page that allows you to add favourite Websites in the form of tiles, a Tableau, like a speed dial, and has a smart search box at the top. The browser tabs are displayed at the bottom of the window. The new look does give the feel of more page space, it's very neat looking.

Settings and features are accessed from a menu icon at the top right of the window, and from there you can go about setting the browser up to your liking - Chrome style.

Yandex comes with ten pre-installed extension, although not activated, so you can choose which ones you want to use. WOT, Adguard, Lastpass, Evernote are there, as well as Turbo, which is Opera Turbo and can be set to your liking. You can also add many other extensions, should you wish to, from the Opera Extensions site - so, no WebStore. Once activated the extension icons are displayed at top right of the browser window.

Mouse gestures are built into the browser and work well. There's also a built in translator which is very good, translates whole pages or even the site. It also lets you translate highlighted single words or sentences. Another useful feature, if you're reading a page and are scrolling down, clicking on the tab will automatically send you back to the top of the page. Click it again and the page scrolls back down to where you were before. Can't recall coming across this before - maybe some other browsers do it.

The new Yandex is no heavier or lighter on resources than other Chromium type browsers, and for a Beta it's very stable. Hasn't crashed once on me yet. But just a note of caution. Some of the start page images (you can change them) are animated and so you may get high CPU when they're running. If this is the case then you can click them to stop the annimation running - like pausing and starting a video. But just be aware of that if you try it.

I'm still kind of discovering things as I go along with it. There's a good help page here if you need it;

http://help.yandex.com/newbrowser/

... it can also be accessed via the menu icon - Advanced - Help Centre. It's very informative and easy to understand.

I haven't had the time to try many different browsers over the past few months, too many other commitments, but I have the time in the next few weeks so I'm trying a few out now. This, Yandex, is one of the best I've tried so far. It's very good - if you like the new look thing. It's different, that's for sure, but in a good way. There are similarities in Yandex from other browsers, kind of mixed together to give the browser some very nice touches.

If you're interested it's well worth a try. The usual geographics of it all - Yandex is a Russian browser, so ...... you either do or you don't.

From what I've seen of it so far they've created a really nice, modern Web browser.

Write up on the Yandex Company Blog, here;

http://company.yandex.com/press_cent...try.xml?pid=65

I mentioned this on the Maxthon Nitro thread but thought it best to give it a thread of its own.
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Old 17. Dec 2014, 08:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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deya, the browser page shows that it is an alpha version, and the blog page says that too.

So, unless what you have downloaded and installed is a beta, I think there might be a mistake here?

I also checked out the download size, it's 97 MB . Isn't that much for a minimalistic browser?
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I also checked out the download size, it's 97 MB . Isn't that much for a minimalistic browser?
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Old 17. Dec 2014, 11:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Anupam; ..... yes, when I downloaded and installed it I had read, same as you, that it was an Alpha version. But once installed I opened the 'About' page of the browser and it shows it as Version 14.10.2062.12544 beta. So, I thought maybe an update. I'll dig around a bit and see if I can find out more.

As for the download size, yes, agreed, it's on the large size, and once installed it's massive - 441 MB. But I'm working on the theory that this early version is like Opera Developer which, when installed, is bigger then the Stable version. So with the Opera/Yandex connection I'm thinking this will be the same in the Final version - that it'll reduce in size.

They're trying something different here so I don't expect it to be plain sailing right from the off. All I can say is that as a browser it works very well and, so far, I haven't encountered any real issues. There's a lot packed into it so perhaps that accounts for some of the file size. Maybe minimalistic UI's are going to come at a price.

Compare the size of the old Opera 12 to the new 26 - huge difference. Maybe they work on the thinking that everyone has a large amount of disk storage space these days.

So everything inflates MC, not just Russian prices and interest rates. The rouble is in free fall and their economy may be on the verge of a catastrophic collapse but - they're still giving away free Web browsers! Might be best to grab a few before they start charging for them

Seriously though, I do like the look and feel of this browser. Everything runs nice and smooth. I like the tabs at the bottom. The start page Tableau tiles are neat and compact. I think that maybe there's a bit of the innovation here that I've been kind of missing in Opera, design wise.

A bit more of a write up here;

http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/11/2...-chrome-opera/

Comments at the end make for interesting reading, no URL bar etc.
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Old 20. Dec 2014, 04:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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is it a rehash of the old "Social" browsers? pictures make it seem like that with those social media apps
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Old 21. Dec 2014, 12:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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eyeb; by that, do you mean something like Rockmelt? If so, then I'd say no.

The Tableau/Speed Dial does have pre-loaded tiles for Facebook and Twitter when you first open the browser - same as Opera, but you can delete them if you want. There's also a notification feature integrated into the browser which allows you to receive personal notifications from your Facebook account, if you have one. I don't, nor do I use any other social media. But you can enable/disable this feature via settings - notifications. It's better explained on the help page, here;

http://help.yandex.com/newbrowser/pe...tification.xml

As said, I don't use any of that, nor am I interested. So it's disabled and I don't even know it's there. There is nothing on the Yandex I'm using that points to any social media. No tiles, apps, links - nothing. But that's not to say that such features won't be useful to others who do use it, in fact I'm sure they will be. So the option's there if you want to enable it.

Nothing is forced upon you. You can personalise it how you please. Some extension are pre-loaded, as I mentioned, but you have to activate them if you want to use them - WOT, Adguard etc. I think it's quite a good idea to have WOT pre-installed to be honest. The browser also uses Kaspersky to scan downloaded files and warns of potentially malicious sites. Have a read through this review on Neowin;

http://new.neowin.net/news/yandex-br...206212544-beta

..... which, by the way, shows it as a Beta. Not quite worked that out yet, although I'd hedge my bets and say Alpha, as pointed out by Anupam.

I'm still using it, it's running great. No doubt there are a few glitches, things to be added in the future, but it's a very stable browser even at this early stage. No crashes, nothing untoward.
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well, not rockmelt but yes, forgot when but a while back all these social browsers came up

and I noticed that this one has notifications (under advanced settings) for a Russian's Dating Site (don't know the name, it's in russian :S) and facebook, which was why I asked

I've uninstalled it, from what I saw, it wasn't bad. I just like portable apps :S and would use this one if it was portable as well.

I might reinstall it later to play more, did notice the extensions were limited? Does it take firefox/chrome extensions since it uses opera too?

also noticed it doesn't play too well with sandboxie?

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I've had a good look around the settings but I can't see anything to do with a Russian dating site. I've not come across anything like that to be honest, just Facebook notifications. Not quite sure what to make of that. No one's pestered me for a date yet.

You can use any Opera extensions, of which there are many.

https://addons.opera.com/en-gb/extensions/

I tried the Chrome Store, installed ABP from there and it worked fine. Maybe some won't be compatible, and I'm not a huge user of extensions anyway but I'll try a few more and see what happens. I don't think people will struggle with a lack of extensions though.

Sandbox. Ok, well I don't use Sandboxie but I do occasionally use the sandbox in 360 Total Security. Yandex won't work in that either - nor will Opera for that matter. Maxthon, Seamonkey, IE, Nitro, they run fine in the 360 sandbox. Can't compare the two - Sandboxie and 360 TS sandbox, because I don't use them enough to really understand them in depth. But I remember Bo posting something, some time back, about Opera not working in Sandboxie so I would think it may have something to do with that, there being links with Yandex and Opera. It doesn't bother me because I don't run either browser sandboxed but if you do then it's a problem, obviously, so maybe Bo could point you in the right direction there.

As for portable, I don't think there'll be one. I've not come across a portable Yandex browser, even the older versions.
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maybe not dating site then :S like I said, I can't read russian, I just thought it looked similar to that vkontakte dating site that I seen advertized

I'm hoping for a portable one, I like the sandbox because it keeps it clean off system which portable does for me.
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Ah, VKontakte. That's the Russian equivalent of Facebook. No sign of it on the version I'm using - wonder if you somehow got the Russian version download? If I do a search for 'VKontakte' in settings search it points to the Notification Settings, but when I open them it's Facebook - no mention of VKontakte.

Also, in the version I'm using, Yandex search isn't even listed as a search engine option. Google, Yahoo UK & Ireland, Bing, Ask Jeeves are listed for the default choice, but no Yandex. Everything is in English. I'm guessing a regional thing? .. sounds like what you're describing is the Russian language version of the browser.

Anyway, never mind. Cleared that up - the dating site thing.

If I do come across a portable version I'll post it here. Although, maybe not much use if it won't run sandboxed for you.
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