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Old 14. Dec 2014, 05:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Update Flash to the latest version as per my explanation!

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Old 15. Dec 2014, 12:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Flash Player should auto-update on IE and Firefox as well as on Chrome (unless you have opted not to do this).

However, it can be slow to do this (on Firefox and IE) and, as most most Flash updates are security related, many people like to update manually a.s.a.p.

There's no longer any need to uninstall the old version of Flash before updating, the latest version will overwrite the previous.
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Old 15. Dec 2014, 03:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Flash Player should auto-update on IE and Firefox as well as on Chrome (unless you have opted not to do this).

However, it can be slow to do this (on Firefox and IE) and, as most most Flash updates are security related, many people like to update manually a.s.a.p.

There's no longer any need to uninstall the old version of Flash before updating, the latest version will overwrite the previous.

That is good information to know.

That probably explains why the 15.0.0.246 version was automatically installed in my unit on 10-Dec unbeknownst to me.

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Old 15. Dec 2014, 08:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Flash Player should auto-update on IE and Firefox as well as on Chrome (unless you have opted not to do this).

However, it can be slow to do this (on Firefox and IE) and, as most most Flash updates are security related, many people like to update manually a.s.a.p.
As far as I know, there is no auto-update of Flash Player on both IE and Firefox... only on Chrome.

I use Firefox, and it only shows the message that flash player is out of date, and blocks its usage on sites. Firefox does not auto-update flash player.

Flash Player for IE is updated automatically for IE via Windows Update in Windows 8/8.1, but not in previous versions of Windows.

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There's no longer any need to uninstall the old version of Flash before updating, the latest version will overwrite the previous.
It is always better to uninstall the previous version of flash player. An uninstaller for flash player is officially available via Adobe, and it is of a very small size. It will be good to make use of it.
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As far as I know, there is no auto-update of Flash Player on both IE and Firefox... only on Chrome.
He means that when Adobe Flash Player is automatically set to check for updates and install.

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It is always better to uninstall the previous version of flash player. An uninstaller for flash player is officially available via Adobe, and it is of a very small size. It will be good to make use of it.
At one time this was a very good idea as Flash Player didn't overwrite itself.

The 'average user' probably wasn't aware when Flash updates became available, or the need, and even less aware of the Flash uninstaller, or the need. Hence lots of users were using outdated versions and, if they did download and install the latest version, didn't uninstall old versions. A huge security risk.

For the 'average user' automatic updates are probably a great idea as some people aren't aware of the need and availablity and some seem just not to care. Where updates are applied automatically (i.e. if the Recommended setting is selected), there's no real chance to uninstall the old version first.

More experienced users may prefer to be notified of updates and leave it a day or two, just in case it's a duff update that screws the PC, then download and install manually. Even so, there's no great need nowadays to uninstall the old version, though there's no harm in doing so.

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I think there are different ways to handle Flash. This is how I do it.

First of all, I only install the flash version for the browser that I use for viewing videos. For me, that is Firefox. So, whenever I update Flash, I uninstall the old version using the uninstaller, reboot the PC, and after the reboot, I install the new plugin. If I used IE for viewing videos, I would install the Active X.

Immediately after installing the new version of the plugin, I delete the task that gets created by Flash to check for updates. This task is created every time that Flash is updated. If I remember correctly, Flash checks for update like once an hour, that's just too much, IMO. Then, I disable the Flash update service in Services and reboot one more time.

I think this is the best way to handle Flash for people that come to forums but for people that don't come to forums or know the difference between plugins and active X and what they do or why is a good reason to update them, then its safer and better to have Flash set to update automatically. So, is it better to update manually or automatically? really depends on who the user is, I believe.

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Let me take what I wrote above a little further. My previous post apply to what I do with Flash in my XP. In XP, I watch a lot of videos. But in my W7, I hardly ever need Flash for anything. So, in that computer, I don't keep Flash installed in the PC. There is no reason for me to install Flash if I am not gonna use it every day or every week.

But I keep a Flash installer laying around the Desktop of the W7. If for some reason I require Flash for something, I install it temporarily in a sandbox (takes 10 seconds), after using the plugin, the sandbox gets deleted. No need for reboots, delete nothing, uninstall nothing.

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Old 15. Dec 2014, 10:16 PM   #19 (permalink)
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So, is it better to update manually or automatically? really depends on who the user is, I believe.
Absolutely agree, Bo. For me, what you do would be a P.I.T.A. but what you do with your PC in your time is your business.

There's probably loads of articles / threads about the Flash updater, this *might* be of interest:

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Yet another background updater? Isnít that consuming a ton of resources?

NO! By using the Windows Task Scheduler, we are able to run the Background Updater only once per hour for a few milliseconds. The Background Updater will usually launch, check if it is time to do an update check and then shut itself down. Only if an update is available will the updater stay running for a longer period of time to allow for the download to complete and the installation to start.

The fact that the process starts every hour does not mean that it will perform an update check every hour. Rather, it will first check to see if it is time for the next update check. If it isnít, it will shut itself down again after only a few milliseconds.
http://blogs.adobe.com/spohl/2012/03...dater-windows/
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Absolutely agree, Bo. For me, what you do would be a P.I.T.A. ..
Understandable. Updating manually can be seen as a PITA if you don't see the point of doing it. But if you do, once you get used to it, it becomes natural to do it that way. I wouldn't do things differently. Let me give you an example of a benefit of updating programs and the system manually: I never have problems with updates of any kind and that is simply because if there is a problem with an update, I ll know about it before I upgrade the program. That right there makes it a good reason to update manually. But remember, its also my opinion that this is not so for everyone. For most of my friends and family, updating manually wouldn't work.

By the way, despite doing all updates manually, I spend very little time updating programs. That is because I only install programs that I require to use on an everyday basis. For security, I got nothing to update other than Sandboxie. One browser, less than 4 addons in Firefox, none in IE. No Java. Sometimes I can go a couple of weeks without updating nothing.

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