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Old 18. Aug 2014, 02:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Anyone using 64-bit web browsers for Windows 64-bit?

I want to get some feedback about 64-bit web browsers for Windows which will help me to rank them in the Best Free Windows 64-bit Software article. There are so many different things that browsers are used for that it is impossible for me to try enough of them.

Which ones have you tried?
Why did you stop using them?

Which one do you use now?
Why do you like it?

I'm currently using Opera 64-bit which I really like but it has some issues compared with Waterfox/Firefox. I don't remember having them before this new Chromium-based version of Opera:
  • No bookmarks so I had to install the Opera Bookmark Manager. It works and imported my Firefox bookmarks via an HTML file.
  • No print preview.
  • HTML character entity support is more limited.
  • HTML text backgrounds/highlights display in the wrong place.
  • When I open a new tab then close it I don't end up on the tab before it but the tab after it.

Thanks for any feedback you can give me - nothing is too small.
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Old 19. Aug 2014, 12:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not sure about the HTML stuff but everything else is normal..
I like Opera also...even with the change to chrome.. it's still feel like Opera..
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Old 19. Aug 2014, 02:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not sure about the HTML stuff but everything else is normal..
I like Opera also...even with the change to chrome.. it's still feel like Opera..
Yes, it does feel like the Opera of old but I noticed a lot of changes as I haven't used it for about two years. The browsers are definitely more alike than they were back then particularly as Opera features have been adopted in other browsers.
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Old 24. Aug 2014, 07:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd be interested to know how many people actually pay attention to whether or not the browser is 64 bit. Like myself I think the majority are more concerned with features and the browsing experience, which 64 bit doesn't seem to offer a significant amount of. Just saying.
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Yes, I know that in general users are ignorant of the benefits.

I can visibly see the difference in system responsiveness when I am running several 64-bit applications at the same time with lots of windows in 4GB of physical memory. Some of the reasons for the performance improvement are that Windows 64-bit:
  • provides a flat memory model that avoids the 32-bit usable memory limit and avoids virtual memory fragmentation;
  • avoids WOW emulation which is demonstrably slower than native execution.
  • avoids older drivers that cause a lot of compatibility issues

Unless you need more than a couple of GB of memory for one application or file then performance benefits are much less than you can get by system maintenance or a hardware upgrade. I suppose that for most users the difference would probably be in the same ball-park as registry cleaning, somewhere in the range from a little slower to a little faster.

I've thought about doing quantitative testing but that is likely to be a lot of work because smaller differences require more precise results which means lots of iterations. Even more iterations would be required if I tested 64-bit web browsers because of the need to eliminate the variability in internet connection speed and DNS server and web-site response times from the results. But if I did do it I could combine it with registry performance testing if I ever had a whole month to spare.
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Old 25. Aug 2014, 03:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I had a quick look for any benchmark tests comparing 32-bit and 64-bit applications on Windows 64-bit. I haven't found anything useful for web browsers, email and general office productivity programs.
Comparing 64bit and 32bit CPU benchmark results

Rendering and encoding should be faster using 64-bit applications as these videos show:
32 vs 64 bit CINEBENCH benchmark
Sony Vegas Render Test 64bit Vs 32 Bit 64-bit took 15m25s vs 18m08s for 32-bit
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Old 27. Aug 2014, 07:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Updated to Chrome 37 x64 on Windows 7. My Chromebook switched to 64-bit when I upgraded its RAM. As for my old PC running elementary OS, it doesn't even have a 64-bit CPU. So far, so good.
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Updated to Chrome 37 x64 on Windows 7. My Chromebook switched to 64-bit when I upgraded its RAM. As for my old PC running elementary OS, it doesn't even have a 64-bit CPU. So far, so good.
Thanks for the heads up on a stable release of Chrome 64-bit.
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Based on the lack of interest here I'd say not many people use 64-bit browsers... apart from me.

There are now some test results from the main 64-bit web browsers in Windows Web Browser Performance
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Based on the lack of interest here I'd say not many people use 64-bit browsers... apart from me.
I've just recently migrated to Waterfox 32.0 from Opera 12.17, which has been my default web browser/email client since version 9.0. Basically I felt forced to change due to increasing problems with website compatibility from lack of ongoing development.
Initially I tried Opera 24 but it just didn't offer the key functions I'd become so used to relying on previously, despite trying out a number of extensions (including some Google Chrome ones).

So far, I'm fairly happy with Waterfox after spending some time choosing the right extensions and a few settings customizations.
Regarding start up and page loading speed it feels a bit quicker than Opera (haven't run any tests though), so far has show good website compatibility, and has mostly been fairly stable apart from a couple of crashes which appeared to be associated with running in Sandboxie and with using doPDF printer. Having said that, DoPDF was causing similar problems for me with Opera.

All my chosen extensions so far appear to be working fine with Waterfox, as is the new free PDF-XChange Editor 64bit plug-in.

As far as the email client is concerned, I'm now using the new standalone Opera mail client, although I'm also playing with the Simple Mail extension which seems promising.

Now I just need to find some way of replicating Opera 12's session manager and bookmarks manager.... open to suggestions?

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