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Old 29. Apr 2014, 02:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Firefox new interface - Australis

Well I just got the new FF Australis interface page and, to tell you the truth, it really doesn't look that bad. Actually it might take a little time to get accustomed to but it seems okay. The whole problem is that we are accustomed to do things a certain way and when change and new technologies arrive we resent the fact that we might have to "start all over again" and that's understandable. As part of our learning habits that is not unusual at all. Changes and innovation are usually difficult for us to accept and "learned habits" is just part of our psychological traits on how we think and act so, if you really think about it, after awhile, getting accustomed to the new FF is really no big deal. Sure we've lost a few things that we liked on our homepage, but can you imagine if we still had the "original FireFox" and all that "old technology"??? Let me put it this way, I can remember the first car I had a 1963 Chevy Impala and no AC. Do you think that I would change my 2012 Lexus GS 350 for the "old, trustworthy and beauty" of the Impala??? Yeah, it's a nostalgic felling I guess and I loved that Impala but you get the idea. I got over it and I'm sure that you will too. Technology and innovation has it's sacrifices but the positives out weight the lost.... so I welcome you Australis and thanks FireFox for a job well done.......
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Old 29. Apr 2014, 06:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The looks of the new Firefox don't bother me much, I don't particularly like it but I could learn to live with it. What bothers me with the new Firefox is that the option to place tabs not on top is taken way from the user. And also the option to toggle the bookmarks sidebar is gone.

Those are functions that I want in my browser. To get them back, I had to install the "Classic Theme Restorer" addon. I avoid installing addons as much as I can so I don't really like to install a new addon to make my browser function as it did in the past and as I need it to. I ll try to stay with Firefox but I might be forced to switch to Palemoon.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...themerestorer/

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Old 29. Apr 2014, 07:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, as for memory and CPU usage, you can cut it down if you don't use Adblock. It is the biggest offender among addons in my opinion. As for alternative you can use Firefox in pair with Adfender, which can use the same subscriptions as Adblock, but doesn't strain your system.
And lets hope that Mozilla will optimize Firefox better in the future, especially for multicore processors.
Totally agree. Found out that by removing adblock edge or adblock plus, the memory is lessened considerably in Palemoon. Right now with NoScript and Ghostery extensions, as of right now, in Gizmos while typing this, Palemoon memory is at 91,045k..... and this is while in Sandboxie.
Bo, I switched from firefox to Palemoon a year or so ago and I am well pleased with it. Works great with Sandboxie.
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Old 29. Apr 2014, 07:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi wolfstr, this is how my Firefox looks now. I am using the "Classic Theme Restorer" addon to 1) Allow me to open Bookmarks as a window on the left side of the browser (clicking on one button), 2) Tabs not on top, 3) Addon bar and 4) to place the bookmark star in the URL bar.

I could get used to all the changes that Mozilla has done but the Bookmarks side window. I just cant use a browser that doesn't have that option available. I know Palemoon looks and has all the functions as in the past, I might go to it but for now I ll keep Firefox. If someone knows how I can get my bookmarks to open as in the picture by clicking on one button, I like to know. And I ll probably uninstall the addon that I am using to get that done.

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Old 30. Apr 2014, 06:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I could get used to all the changes that Mozilla has done but the Bookmarks side window.
Bo, I'm sorry if I misunderstand you but I just upgraded to 29 too. If I hit Ctrl + B it will bring up the Bookmarks panel. If I leave the panel enabled and close and re-open FF the panel will still be there. Isn't it the same for you?
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Hi Joe, if I hit Ctrl + B and leave the panel open (done outside the sandbox) when I close Firefox, when I run Firefox again, it will open with the bookmarks panel open. But it would be kind of uncomfortable to browse with the open panel all the time.

The way I have it now is how I am used to using bookmarks. I just click on the square button with the star that I placed on the top left side of the browser and the panel opens. To close it, I hit the same button again or the X at the top of the panel.

I don't like drop down kind of bookmark menus. I cant get used to it. Its just very uncomfortable to me to open bookmarks that way.

I like browsers the way browsers were designed in the early days. If you see the picture of my browser, it looks and functions very much like old browsers used to. It might look old but it has the important functions in front and works great for me that way. To me that's whats important. I don't like flashing buttons, etc.

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Bo, personally, I use the drop-down menu and have gotten used to it, but I can understand if you prefer the panel. Anyways, why don't you just open and close the bookmarks panel with the Ctrl + B shortcut?
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Anyways, why don't you just open and close the bookmarks panel with the Ctrl + B shortcut?
The shortcut is not bad but when you are laying back on your chair, having to lean forward every five minutes or so to use the keyboard, it takes its toll after a while (when you are 55, like me).

The thing that's bad I think is that Mozilla keeps taking options away from users. In their new Firefox 29 introduction, they basically saying that you can have your Firefox your own way. And that is not true anymore.

The new flashing bookmarks button that flashes, its horrible, in my opinion, just like the one for downloads. Thankfully, I was able to get rid of that thing and use the bookmark button to open the panel AND place a lone start at the right side of the URL bar (to bookmark new bookmarks....like in the past).

A few minutes ago, I was reading this article by Dedoimedo, it reminded me of another terrible change that Mozilla made a few versions back that makes things, again, uncomfortable. Read what he says about the "Find bar".

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/f...-suckfest.html

That change bothers me as well. I only use three addons in each of my two computers and dont want to add anymore. We shouldn't have to add addons to be able to use the browser as in the past.

Regardless of what I am saying, bottom line for me is that as long as Mozilla doesn't change how Firefox works underneath, I wont change browser. But f they change how the browser works in the background and the change makes addons like NoScript dont work anymore (like in Chrome), then I ll stop using Firefox.

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The shortcut is not bad but when you are laying back on your chair, having to lean forward every five minutes or so to use the keyboard, it takes its toll after a while (when you are 55, like me).
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...as long as Mozilla doesn't change how Firefox works underneath, I wont change browser. But f they change how the browser works in the background and the change makes addons like NoScript dont work anymore (like in Chrome), then I ll stop using Firefox.
Me too.
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Greetings folks! Coming back here after a long time since real life has been a bit tough....I've migrated to Palemoon about a year or so and haven't looked back. However curiosity got the better of me, so I downloaded a fresh copy of Firefox and installed it in a virtual machine.

Sad that they have thrust the Australis UI (they could have at least have left an option to roll back the changes etc). However with addons like status 4 evar, classic theme restorer and site favicon in urlbar, some sanity is restored. However, I am not able to get the "classic" download manager notification when I download stuff (probably more tweaking needed somewhere?). I am glad that forks like Palemoon exist.
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