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Old 10. Jul 2009, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question A call to boycott Opera

An interesting viewpoint that got a good share of attention over the past 2 days.

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You may have heard it in the news recently, Microsoft is currently the target of an antitrust lawsuit by the EU for bundling its Internet Explorer web browser as the default browser in Windows. That's right, they're being sued for including their own browser in their own operating system.

Who is behind all of this? Opera Software, makers of the Opera web browser. In December of 2007, Opera pushed the EU to open a case against Microsoft as Opera believed it to be anti-competitive for Microsoft to include its own browser as the default browser within their own OS.

For some unknown reason, instead of combating the lawsuit, Microsoft decided to settle, and on Thursday announced that they would no longer include Internet Explorer in versions of Windows 7 (Microsoft's next operating system) sold in Europe, and would leave it up to OEM builders to decide which browser to install.
http://www.jcxp.net/news.php?newsid=2801

Personally I'm of the opinion that Microsoft should not be compelled to ship opera with Windows 7. If this was the case, why stop with just the browser, how about 5 or 6 backup utilities, a few disk defragmenters, half a dozen FTP programs, a dozen antivirus programs, 3 or 4 office suites, a copy of CCleaner, Yahoo, Google, and Skype IM clients, a copy of open office.. and so on. (The user can worry about upgrading to the latest version - as they will all probably be a few versions out of date).

What do you think about this 'tactic' by Opera?
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Old 10. Jul 2009, 04:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I guess it's the nature of the world we live in and this industry in particular.
Wherever there is money to be made there will be backhanded practices and hidden agendas.

There have also been recent accusations about a security company taking illegal measures to rubbish the opposition.

I assume the browser attracts more focus because it's the one thing most people must have to gain access to other software outside of a CD.

This is why I made my tongue-in-cheek comment yesterday querying if the new Google OS would be shipped with IE8

What can we expect next, the "Wallpaper Wars?"
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Old 10. Jul 2009, 05:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't wanna know what Google has to face in that regard with their Chrome OS ...
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Old 10. Jul 2009, 05:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just like the IE itself, you're allowed to find and add more providers for search engines on top of Bing.

Windows should do that too. It should provide more browsers as a choice, not just IE or none at all.

Let's see "EU says it prefers Microsoft to provide several browsers with Windows instead of none at all".

IMO, to boycott Opera is not sensible. Why not then boycott FF and Chrome, as they seem to join the effort -- "Mozilla Corp., which makes the Firefox browser, and Google Inc. have signed on as third parties against Microsoft in the case."
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This is why I made my tongue-in-cheek comment yesterday querying if the new Google OS would be shipped with IE8

What can we expect next, the "Wallpaper Wars?"
Google OS should also "give more, not less", shouldn't copy the looming "none at all".

Wallpaper, oh yes. I understand Win 7 has a wallpaper changer built-in Do we have a choice to disable or uninstall it, strip it off from Windows, just like IE and WMP? ... and have our third party wallpaper changers. We have many choices in BF Wallpaper Changer.
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Old 10. Jul 2009, 06:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I too think that the lawsuit against Microsoft over the IE issue was uncalled for. Its their operating system, they should decide which browser they want to keep. Its obvious, they would include their own browser. Its just that other companies, want to get at Microsoft, and nothing else .
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Old 10. Jul 2009, 07:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think it's better that IE is going to be much easier to add or remove from Windows 7 than previous versions of Windows OS rather than being hardwired (for want of a better word) into it.
However, I don't believe Microsoft should be forced not to provide it pre-installed if they wish to do so, or to include a rivals software.

Sadly the EU seems to enjoy passing petty legislation in the name of "fairness" and it appears that Opera are trying to use this to their advantage. I guess Mozilla and Google will be happy to potentially benefit more than Opera from the outcome while not having to take the lead in any action.

Having read those articles, personally I don't believe Opera should have taken this approach, or indeed been backed up by the others, but I won't be inconveniencing myself by boycotting my chosen web browser because of it. After all, it's only a petty squabble over market share, not human rights!

As long as there remains a wide choice of quality, free software available, I'm not bothered.
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Old 10. Jul 2009, 07:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I agree with Sope, and I forgot to mention in my post... I would not boycott Opera for this, although what they did, if they did it, is wrong. The issue is at its own place, and their well deserved software on the other . I would still use Opera, if I did (I use FF ).
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It would be like me buying a new GM trunk without wheels because I didn't like the tires. I think MS can deny people updates to those who do not have IE. Although MS shouldn't set it up as the default browser let the buyer decide and beware!

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ps: I use Opera mostly.
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Old 12. Jul 2009, 10:18 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I think it's about time the education system started teaching that there are alternatives to IE, microsoft office, hotmail, MSN etc. Then hopefully people can make their own informed choices about what they want to use. As it stands now the majority don't even know IE is a browser let alone that there are others.

I wouldn't boycott Opera. I couldn't. I can certainly understand why they want to fight microsoft. It might be their OS but they are successfully creating a situation that really makes it hard for anyone to compete and competition is in our own best interests.

I hope I'm still around in 30 years time to see who the biggies are on the net, if there is still an internet as we know it.
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