Firefox 22

v.laurie · 25. Jun 2013, 10:06 PM

I was just updated to Firefox 22.0

eyeb · 26. Jun 2013, 04:27 AM

me too

I got no idea what was in update yet

here's the what's new to it though
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo.../releasenotes/

Anupam · 26. Jun 2013, 08:35 AM

Well, there are changes, but none that will concern general users.

sicknero · 26. Jun 2013, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam

Well, there are changes, but none that will concern general users.

I feel for the poor add-on developers!

For instance Sonthakit who made the excellent Bookmark Favicon Changer, has announced that there will be no further development or updates for this project as FF22 has apparently broken it completely now.

Message from Sonthakit

Concerned User · 26. Jun 2013, 01:44 PM

Thanks for yet another update!

..Not just the addon developers, but us users to...Firefox wants to be more and more chrome like and the Australis mockups seem to prove it (curved tabs etc...)...

http://www.ibtimes.com/firefox-updat...photos-1289247

At this rate:

1. There would be more addons to mimic the older firefox (and create more bloat).
2. If this trend keeps up, users (rather power users) will begin to get frustrated and move on to other browsers....

...Let's wait and watch.

sicknero · 26. Jun 2013, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Concerned User

Thanks for yet another update!

..Not just the addon developers, but us users to...Firefox wants to be more and more chrome like and the Australis mockups seem to prove it (curved tabs etc...)...

http://www.ibtimes.com/firefox-updat...photos-1289247

At this rate:

1. There would be more addons to mimic the older firefox (and create more bloat).
2. If this trend keeps up, users (rather power users) will begin to get frustrated and move on to other browsers....

...Let's wait and watch.

Yuk, that's hideous

If I wanted Chrome I would use Chrome.

This ridiculous update schedule will also I think cost Mozilla a lot of users who (me included) are drawn to FF because of all the great add-ons that are available.

If the situation becomes such that add-on developers give up on it, and if it just looks like Chrome anyway, then for me at least that would pretty much kill off the motivation I have to stick with it.

bo.elam · 26. Jun 2013, 05:27 PM

I notice a change in:

Tools>Options>Privacy>Use custom settings for history. The option to tick or untick "Accept third party cookies" is not there anymore.

Like some of you guys, I dont like anything about Chrome. Regardless of the changes they are making to Firefox, it remains my favorite browser by far. I am not moving anywhere. Not even looking for a replacement.

Bo

kendall.a · 26. Jun 2013, 05:35 PM

Sorry Bo, I am looking elsewhere. When I do a cold-start of Firefox and it takes 18 seconds to open on my I7 laptop and Chrome opens in less than 5, I get pretty irritated. That, along with the update schedule and my add-ons no longer working, has led me to think seriously of giving up on FF. I have been a HUGE FF fan for years; but that might be changing.

My biggest issue with Chrome is the inability to set a cache size. I used CCleaner yesterday and it found over 200 MB in the Chrome cache?! In every other browser I use, I set the cache size at 50 MB max.

deya · 26. Jun 2013, 06:42 PM

Bo, the setting you refer to is still there. It's not a box to tick, it's a drop down menu.

Accept third-party cookies - Always, From Visited, Never. In the custom history settings.

sicknero · 26. Jun 2013, 07:21 PM

I just timed IceDragon, it takes just over 15 seconds from a cold start with Noia4 theme, Speed Dial and 62 add-ons. XMarks can slow it down a lot if it has any syncing to do when it starts but that's one add-on I'd be lost without.

I used to find that disabling compatibilty checks sorted out most add ons, but there are a couple I have which now don't function properly. Scrollbar Anywhere for instance, which is annoying. I'm not on v22 yet as Comodo take a little while to bring IceDragon up to date but I daresay I'll be using it when it arrives.

Having this conversation on other forums, it seems that some people (myself here) aren't bothered by a 20 second start up time, while others plut a lot of store by a browser's ability to be ready in 2 seconds.

Kendall do you know about Preloader? (Firefox Preloader on SourceForge) It apparently works by loading/keeping parts of FF into RAM so that FF opens allegedly in a couple of seconds. Can't verify that myself as it doesn't work with IceDragon.

Will you stick with FF Bo, if in a few months time it looks like the Australis one in the link that Concerned User posted?

25. Jun 2013, 10:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
v.laurie Senior Edtor Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,380	Firefox 22 I was just updated to Firefox 22.0 __________________ Vic

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Anupam Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 15,336	Well, there are changes, but none that will concern general users. __________________ Anupam

26. Jun 2013, 01:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Concerned User Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: இந்தியா, सिन्धु, India Posts: 486	Thanks for yet another update!..Not just the addon developers, but us users to...Firefox wants to be more and more chrome like and the Australis mockups seem to prove it (curved tabs etc...)... http://www.ibtimes.com/firefox-updat...photos-1289247 At this rate: 1. There would be more addons to mimic the older firefox (and create more bloat). 2. If this trend keeps up, users (rather power users) will begin to get frustrated and move on to other browsers.......Let's wait and watch.

26. Jun 2013, 05:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
kendall.a Been Here Since the Begin Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 2,345	Sorry Bo, I am looking elsewhere. When I do a cold-start of Firefox and it takes 18 seconds to open on my I7 laptop and Chrome opens in less than 5, I get pretty irritated. That, along with the update schedule and my add-ons no longer working, has led me to think seriously of giving up on FF. I have been a HUGE FF fan for years; but that might be changing. My biggest issue with Chrome is the inability to set a cache size. I used CCleaner yesterday and it found over 200 MB in the Chrome cache?! In every other browser I use, I set the cache size at 50 MB max. __________________ Been here since the beginning.

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26. Jun 2013, 04:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
eyeb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Planet X Posts: 887	me too I got no idea what was in update yet here's the what's new to it though https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo.../releasenotes/

26. Jun 2013, 05:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
bo.elam Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,714	I notice a change in: Tools>Options>Privacy>Use custom settings for history. The option to tick or untick "Accept third party cookies" is not there anymore. Like some of you guys, I dont like anything about Chrome. Regardless of the changes they are making to Firefox, it remains my favorite browser by far. I am not moving anywhere. Not even looking for a replacement. Bo

26. Jun 2013, 06:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Bo, the setting you refer to is still there. It's not a box to tick, it's a drop down menu. Accept third-party cookies - Always, From Visited, Never. In the custom history settings.

26. Jun 2013, 07:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
sicknero Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: England Posts: 657	I just timed IceDragon, it takes just over 15 seconds from a cold start with Noia4 theme, Speed Dial and 62 add-ons. XMarks can slow it down a lot if it has any syncing to do when it starts but that's one add-on I'd be lost without. I used to find that disabling compatibilty checks sorted out most add ons, but there are a couple I have which now don't function properly. Scrollbar Anywhere for instance, which is annoying. I'm not on v22 yet as Comodo take a little while to bring IceDragon up to date but I daresay I'll be using it when it arrives. Having this conversation on other forums, it seems that some people (myself here) aren't bothered by a 20 second start up time, while others plut a lot of store by a browser's ability to be ready in 2 seconds. Kendall do you know about Preloader? (Firefox Preloader on SourceForge) It apparently works by loading/keeping parts of FF into RAM so that FF opens allegedly in a couple of seconds. Can't verify that myself as it doesn't work with IceDragon. Will you stick with FF Bo, if in a few months time it looks like the Australis one in the link that Concerned User posted?