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Old 28. May 2013, 02:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Opera 15 Desktop browser which is still in beta has been released. I am really impressed but it does not take much to impress usually But seriously appears very promising.

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog...-15-0-released
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Old 28. May 2013, 02:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't know if its in development or what, but their site has become kinda worthless. There's no information or details on the next browser, or any browser for that matter.

Has the engine changed with Opera 15, as it was going to? What is new in Opera 15 next?

No information... atleast not visible to me straight away... except for features, which tell nothing.
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Old 28. May 2013, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's running WebKit, so a new GUI - basically Chrome, but it does have new features.

http://www.opera.com/developer/next

Extensions are the same, Opera add-ons. I've installed WOT and AdBlockPlus and they both work fine.

I installed this latest version over the top of my existing Opera Next and it installed without issue - I also installed a fresh copy on another machine, no issues again.

The browser runs several processes, like all Chrome browsers do, and runs light enough so far. Settings page is the same as Chrome, although you can't re-set the home page so I'm wondering if changes will be made in the future - it's obviously still all under development.

There's a help page if you're not sure what's what;

http://help.opera.com/opera/Windows/...etStarted.html

I've not been using it long but so far it's been very stable for me.

This is the first version of the new Opera and not a final version. It's Next, the test channel.
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All the info you need here I hope

http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/2013/0...-for-computers
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Thanks for the links. Will be interesting to see how all this works out for Opera in the coming days.
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Old 28. May 2013, 07:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The best part is that Opera is switching to Chromium's extension model.
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Old 28. May 2013, 09:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's very early days, this version is really only a preview, not even a Beta release. You can't install extensions from the Chrome Web Store, only from the Opera Extensions page. Whether that will change in the future, who knows?

Looking through the Opera comment boards, forum etc, it doesn't seem to be being too well received by the masses - some of them seem almost suicidal at the changes to the browser. I don't think you can judge it properly yet, not on this release at least. It's obviously going to take a lot of time before they get the new Opera to where they want it to be.

There's no built in email client, it's now a separate install. No feed reader, no customising of the UI, no skins, no notes - all the things, that to many users, made Opera unique. No matter which way you try to look at it, it's another Chrome clone.

There are some features that I like. The speed dial page has changes, and you can now group favourite sites into folders. The Stash feature is quite good, as is the Discover page, and there's a new download manager. But you can't import bookmarks, although you can access your favourites via the Opera Link page - if you have an account that is. So if you update to this [version 15] over an existing install of version 12 you will lose all your bookmarks and speed dial pages. So just a warning.

I've been using it this afternoon and evening, and so far it hasn't crashed once. It doesn't take long to get used to it and, with the exception of a couple, it renders sites quickly. It's easy to save sites, to the speed dial and the stash, by clicking icons in the address bar.

Search is predominantly Google though, but you can select other search engine results from a drop down in the address bar as you type your query - Yahoo, Bing, Amazon and Wikipedia. I haven't figured out a way to add other search engines yet - in fact I don't think you can.

The settings are pretty basic so far, although I'm sure they'll add more in future releases. Menu is still accessed from the Opera button at top left - everything, no Chrome type wrench / spanner or whatever they call it, and there is no status bar for zooming pages etc. Not much in the right click context menu either, not like the old Opera where you could alter page prefs etc. Maybe that will change later.

All in all, for a preview / Alpha version it's not too bad. No point in knee jerk reactions at the first sight of it, it's way too early for that. It's something to try out, have a mess around with if you feel so inclined. No Linux or 64bit versions yet either. But as stated, it's stable and shouldn't give anyone who wants to try it any problems.
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Thanks for the heads up.

As a long time Opera user I do understand why people are finding this early release very basic and disappointing, but I am hopeful that this will improve during it's ongoing development.
What bothers me most is that it looks like the email client is being developed separately from the browser now, and I suspect that this will be a permanent split

It will be interesting to see how things pan out over the coming months.
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It still hasn't crashed once, and I've been using it quite a bit today. Takes a while to get used to the look of it, the overall appearance maybe still needs some polish and I'm sure they'll get round to that soon. To be honest I really don't mind it. In anticipation of this happening I began using Comodo Dragon some time ago, I've never really been that keen on the look of Chrome type browsers but I got to liking Dragon. This new look Opera is not too dissimilar to that, although Dragon is more the finished article - appearance, features and settings wise. But maybe that could describe the other Chrome clones? I don't know. I don't use them.

The email client that Sope mentions seems to be the thing that's upsetting many users, reading the comments, and I guess for those who use the built in one on the older Opera it's a bit of a deal breaker. I don't use it myself but can understand the frustration of those who rely on it heavily. I do use the feed reader though, and notes, a lot. But it looks as though the feed reader may be gone for good too, to be replaced by an extension in the future. But if it's as good as the one I use with Dragon I'll be happy enough with that. Have to wait and see.

Notes, I'm not sure about. I can access my existing notes via the Opera Sync page, can't do to much with them but they are there. So maybe in the future, notes will return. This would be a huge plus for me, personally.

Bookmarks, or lack of, is another major issue for many but I can't see them being gone for good. Clicking the menu button and selecting 'More tools' you can see 'Bookmark importer' but it's greyed out at the moment. So my way of thinking is that bookmarks are perhaps a priority in the near future - and let's face it, they should be. The Speed Dial and Stash are very good, but you've got to be able to have bookmarks and a way to manage them, surely. Dragon does it well enough.

Anyway, time will tell. They plan to have three separate streams of the browser, each one with an increased level of stability;

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog...-release-cycle

... so expect the updates to come thick and fast.

They truly have now entered the realms of Chrome.
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One of Opera's big attractions for me has always been the range and quality of features built into the browser as standard. Looks like this will no longer be the case with the new version which it seems will be far more reliant on extensions.
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