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Old 09. May 2013, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Completely new email with no alternate address or cell phone needed

You used to be able to get a free email (webmail) address without need of a cell/mobile/land line phone number or any previous email addresses.

Now it seems every free email service requires either a phone number and/or an alternate email address.

Even the K7 dot net website, which provides phone numbers, requires a master email address.

Does anyone know of any reliable and reputable email service that does not require ANY previously created email address nor ANY phone number?

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PS. This may be in the "too hard basket I think"
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Old 10. May 2013, 04:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The only options I can think of is Tor Mail, disposable email addresses (14.9.), or your own email server.
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An alternate email address is required so that in case you lose the password of your email, then password restore information could be sent to the alternate one. Nowadays, everyone has 2-3 or more email addresses on different sites. It's a good security feature to have an alternate email address to recover your login information. I will suggest you to make use of it.

Same is for the phone number. But yes, some people may think it's too personal. But again, your email is personal too.
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Old 10. May 2013, 09:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree with Epsilon. It took me ages to decide on my (paid) email provider and I use my son's email address as my alternate one. I always give made up phone numbers when any website asks for it unless I feel otherwise is necessary.
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Are you all saying that a person cannot sign up for an email address unless they provide another email address/phone number? In other words, these fields are now mandatory? Am I missing something?

I've had my 2 email addresses with Hotmail and GMail before they started asking for this type of information. At first, when I started receiving messages from GMail to provide such info, I simply declined to provide it and that didn't prevent me from using the regular email functions. Eventually, I provided the info because, as Anupam pointed out, there is a good and valid reason for asking you for it.

I guess, as jim pointed out, you could always give false info, particularly if it's a 'disposable' email address. However, for my really important email addresses, I think it's good thing to provide the info. I haven't seen any negatives from doing so yet.
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Old 10. May 2013, 06:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't see anything wrong in providing an alternate email address for an email service like Gmail, or Hotmail. Both are reputed and respected email services. And they are asking for an alternate email address only for your benefit, so that you can easily recover your email, in case you have a problem logging in. What's the problem in that?

This feature is for your own security. With increasing registrations all over the internet, it's now hard to keep track of your login credentials, and it's easy to forget passwords, security questions, and the likes. Also, there is the problem of hacking. That's why, to make it more secure, and to make the retrieval easy, such information is now asked for.

I understand that giving a phone number can be considered a bit obtrusive, and I too was hesitant at first, but then again, if you think of it, Facebook and Google have a name to live up to... if they start spamming the phone, they are done for. So, I see no harm in providing a mobile number too. It increases the security. But yea, not everyone will feel the same.
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Old 10. May 2013, 07:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think the problem is that they usually refuse the registration if you don't give these details. If they made it optional.......
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If my only access to the internet is by using a computer at a local library, and I have never created an email address in the past and I don't own a phone of any kind and I'm unable to give a number belonging to a friend, it would appear to me that giving a false number would be the only option. But wouldn't the likes of Gmail etc., perform a search of database phone numbers or send a verification code that would require a response?

I'll check Tor Mail to see if they accept sign ups without any of the said requirements.

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I remember Google verifying my phone number (might be optional), but not sure about during sign-up, because I was a relatively early adopter.

I forgot that your ISP may provide you a email, but they have more access to your private information anyways. Tor mail needs Tor (Browser Bundle is best option) or tor2web by the way.
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Old 10. May 2013, 11:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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After a bit more investigation:

Tor Mail requires Tor to be installed on your computer - I don't think that would be acceptable to a library and even it it was I'm sure a re-boot would wipe it from the computer.

GMX permits creation of email address without any alternate email address, although they do ask for one. They don't ask for a phone number.

A site called fakenamegenerator makes a disposable email address for you and you don't need any phone number etc. You can submit that email address to forums etc. I tried using it to create an email address on Zoho Mail but it was rejected so maybe they are wise to it.

Thanks All.

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