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Old 08. Jun 2009, 04:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all, I am after a freeware that will allow me to create tags for all my photos and then search by tags. Tags must be able to have multiple words eg. Tom, Dick, Harry, Jane's 30th Birthday. The method must be one that won't become obsolete when I upgrade from XP to, say, Windows7.

It seems that iTag would do this and the bonus with that is it writes to the IPTC thingy (I don't know anything about it) and can be read by many other programmes but it requires the .NET framework and I am hoping there is an alternative that doesn't force me to install something so huge.

Thanks for any help.

PS I currently have installed the Fuji FinePix Viewer which allows editing of Date, Time and Comment. I also have Photoscape (views Exif data), Photofiltre (doesn't seem to have any data manipulation). I also have ExifToolGUI which allows editing of some Exif data. It has IPTC and XMP buttons which show no data for my photos and doesn't seem to allow inserting of data.

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Old 08. Jun 2009, 05:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm

also reviewed here;
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...age-viewer.htm

came in third place there, but if you want the tags etc it's the best choice.

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Old 08. Jun 2009, 06:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Mike for that. Just after I posted the above I realised I also had Faststone Image Viewer in my portable folder. I can't see though, how I would use this for tagging of photos. I have version 3.5 and the latest is 3.8 but I can't see in the history where getting the newer version would give me what I want. I can see where I can enter a comment but not how I can then retrieve all photos with a certain keyword/comment.

Also thanks for the review link which I had read. Because you sent me back there I realised at the bottom there is a wiki link to comparisons of image viewers and in that I found that Irfanview and XnView can both edit this IPTC thingy so I will check them out.

Graphics Editors/Viewers is one area I become really overwhelmed. No one programme does all I want it to and there are just so many out there.

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My pleasure. With regard to tagging, go here;

http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDownload.htm

and get the tutorial. Tagging is covered on pages 22...26

http://www.faststone.org/FSIVTutorial.htm


Indeed, there are a lot of programs for images and graphics. I also use a number of them, and a few extra utilities as well, because I have not found anything that will do everything I want.

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Yep, found that but.....
isn't it just a means of checking marking multiple photos ie. say you "tag" 10 photos that just means those 10 will be included in whatever you do, like resizing for example? I can't see any way to type in several keywords and then perform a search on one or more of those words even with tagging enabled. Knowing me I've totally missed the plot though
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Old 08. Jun 2009, 08:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Indeed, that's what tagging is. If you want to search for photos based on comments you have added to the photo in some way,that's something else. I have never done it, so I don't know how you might go about it. Also depends on how you add the comments, if you "paste" text into an image with various programs, it usually becomes part of the image and is no longer searchable text.

The easiest and quickest method would be simply to rename the files as desired. Windows XP allows file names upto 255 characters in length and Vista allows 260 characters. So you can name a file something like.

Baby and mama in the park near the fountain on 7th July 2009.jpg

I just tried this, here's the paste, I simply renamed the file.

The file name is only 55 characters here;

Baby and mama in the park near the fountain on 7th July 2009.jpg




Here's an image ( screenshot) of that file in a normal directory


You can sort on file names with various tools. You can also rename files with various bulk renaming tools. You just need to set up some sort of system to do it. As long as the file names are different you can search or sort them easily. You could for instance use a family name, a number, and the date. No problem at all to sort such files. You could also use various keywords that you decide on.

If you don't want to do it like that, then use the File info function in "properties" of the file itself .The box shown has German titles but it is a standard "Properties" box showing "File Info";



I don't know of a program offhand that will search on the File Info box, but there will be one somewhere! A lot easier than messing about with image editors and stuff like that.

Here is a metadata search tool that should help http://www.freevistafiles.com/Optima...dentifier.html

There are bound to be others out there though. I would go one of these routes and forget image editors and the like.

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I think that tagging has different meanings in different places, at least I did describe what I wanted to do though even if I got the terminology wrong

I am currently about 1/3 of the way down this page http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html and halfway through a bottle of champagne so will have to go through it all along with your post again tomorrow.

Thanks for all your time to help me, it is appreciated.
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I am a bit tired right now, was up all night! Anyway, if you use the properties box, any explorer etc. set to show the info can be used to sort etc.

Here's the test file above with various text details added in the file info box;



Here' s the display in Explorer with those details added to the info bars;



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Ahhh, it's working now. I must've done something wrong when I've tried it in the past. If I enter some keywords into the "Comment" box in the properties of a jpg file then I can search that folder and find the files that all contain that word. And the comment stays with the photo if I move it. Yay.

I suspect I used the keywords field instead of the comments in the past.

I'm tired too but that's because it's getting near my bedtime. Obviously we're on different sides of our planet

Thanks again for your help.
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