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Old 26. Apr 2012, 08:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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below I posted something about a possible fake virus message, we got that figured out, but now m.s.e. upon opening to scan, mine has changed colors.

I guess my perception is getting worse, for the life of me i cant recall what color it was, but its SUPER, NOT ORDINARY, bright blue and green, it seems to work, but i once had a well known antivirus that had been disabled somehow and it appeared to work, but was fake according to support for it.

Since my fake message post related to mse, thought i would see if I could test it for validity somehow, or would i be better off for peace of mind, deleting it and putting it on from safe mode with networking ? or is that even possible ?

xp, home 2003, mse, sandboxie, hitman, mbam, reg works. thanks in advance
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Old 26. Apr 2012, 08:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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MSE can change colors under certain circumstances... like if its not been updated for a few days, or if a scan of the system has not been done since quite some days. So, just click on MSE, open it, and see what message it is showing on its screen. That will tell you the reason for color change.

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xp, home 2003, mse, sandboxie, hitman, mbam, reg works. thanks in advance
May I ask what is "reg works" that you mention here?

From my search on internet, it seems to be a rogue registry cleaner. If it is, I advise you to remove it at the earliest.

Also, since your computer knowledge is not very good, I will advise against the use of registry cleaners. Registry cleaners are not meant to be use by novices at all. One wrong registry removed, and it can cause a whole load of problems, which you won't be able to solve, and it can render the system unbootable.

So, please stay away from registry cleaners.
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Old 26. Apr 2012, 10:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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it has no message i checked all buttons, it looks exactly as the one i have always had, but the color is so bright you can"t hardly look at it, i have a picture stored in paint of it so i dont lose it, is it possible to make the photo smaller to show it without a great deal of technical skill? yes that is what reg-work is, i haven't used it in so long i doubt it works, but it needs to go as you said, i have learned to leave registry alone, thanks for all you guys do.

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Old 26. Apr 2012, 11:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You haven't told what color is it now exactly. Normally, its green, but if its any other color, then its indicating something. I hope you are having the real MSE.

For the image, upload it on an image upload site like imgur.com, or tinypic.com, and post the link here.

As for regwork, you might have some difficulty uninstalling it, from what I read on internet. MBAM didn't alert you about the software? Regwork's site is rated red by WOT, meaning its not trustworthy.
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Old 26. Apr 2012, 05:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i managed to get into the educational material i have and i read up on reg work uninstall, it was the same as any program..if it didn't leave me some nastys.
the color on mse is very bright blue and green, if it catches something on mine i usually see an amber color and a warning, not this time...its like the pixels for mse are 5 times the color intensity that they should be, it a difference similar to looking at a light bulb, then looking at the sun, (extreme example) im going to run this by you, ..I have an external drive thats doing nothing, could i move mse to the external, delete it from my computer, then reload it or something else?

my thought are that if i save it, someone smarter than me might figure out why its the only site, that illuminates brightly, and no other does,... or if its a fake.
maybe try to figure what happened to disable the real and replace with a fake,

forgot this VERY IMPORTANT observation, this morning I turned on the tower, and mse was displaying a red warning that my real time protection had been turned off, telling me my computer was unprotected, when i opened the site and clicked the red button, it would not go into protection mode until after about 30 minutes, i tried 5 times, then pulled the connection to the internet. If this is posible to believe, i update everything i know to update daily, I never miss a day. I also run some of the cool stuff here everyday as a precaution against any of the "wares", I'm so glad you folks introduced to sandboxie.

i dont know about this, but i also downloaded a usb flash drive corruption detector last night, specific name not known, its use is complete, it has the shield similar to defender, but I just looked and found no details in propertys, so I figure it has to go. but the mse issue was before the flash drive download, so i cant blame it yet....unless you tell me to.
i talk to much, but i know you need info, to provide answers and i dont know how much or what specifically so i just try to get it all on the table, thanks in advance

I just looked at one of my other computers, and the mse window is bordered very light blue, with a green bar just under top border of window, and a web or net is a visual part of the mse window.

where mine differs, is that i now recall having the web or net, the colors are the same except for an extreme intensity in color, and the net or web doesn't exist. it acts like its scanning but it goes to about 23000 files during a quick scan, and then continues scanning, not listing files as part of the total amount, it says its scanning hidden files...i guess that is ok?

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Old 26. Apr 2012, 07:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Its good that regwork was uninstalled without a trouble. Please be careful of what program you use. Before using an unknown program, do try to find out more about it on the internet.

About the MSE issue, I am getting confused. Maybe you are unable to explain it properly. You say that MSE has changed colors... but now I notice that you also mention "site" in your post this time. Does that mean that MSE changes colors when you go to a particular site? Is that what you want to say?
And I am not really getting what color are you trying to say exactly.. bright red and green.. just does not make sense to me. Two colors together? Maybe you should post an image.
Also, if MSE is changing colors, then definitely, it must be accompanied by some message as to why it is so. Try to search for that message.

I don't use MSE, but I have seen it perform on other computers, so I am saying on basis of what I have seen. If anyone else who has used MSE, can understand and post here, would be great.

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I have an external drive thats doing nothing, could i move mse to the external, delete it from my computer, then reload it or something else?
Again didn't get what you are trying to say here. Move MSE to external drive means, moving the setup file, or the whole installation? An installed program just can't be moved to another disk.

I think best would be to install MSE again. Recently, a new version of MSE has been released. So, uninstall the current version on your system. Before that, download the setup for the new version, preferably from Microsoft site, or reputed site like Softpedia, FileHippo, MajorGeeks etc. And then install the new version, after uninstalling the old one.

About the USB flash drive corruption detector, I don't know which program are you talking about, but personally, I never came across such program.

As I said before, please know about an unknown software before using it.

I hope you use WOT on browsers. WOT indicates sites by ratings... dangerous, or suspicious sites are marked with orange and red, and safe ones by green. Although many people raise questions about WOT, and yes, it has some shortcomings, but for most part, it works very well, and its efficiency has been tested by some of our editors. I certainly recommend it, as it gives an indication to users which sites to visit. Novices should definitely make use of it.
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Old 26. Apr 2012, 08:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I believe I posted this on the 18th, and this is what started this mess, i think

I recieved this message but cant find anything wrong when scanning with updated MSE, MBAM, HITMAN PRO. I noted a mispelled word in the warning the word is :migth" rather than "might" any opinion would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

windows xp home 2002, sp3, mse, mbam, hitman pro, sandboxie. all updated daily, no social sites, the message is as follows and i captured a copy and placed in paint.

potential threat details

microsoft security essentials detected potential threats that "migth" compromise your privacy or damage your computer.
you need to clean your computer immediately to prevent the system crash.


(button)
clean computer

trojan-PSW.win32launch
hacktool:win32/welevate.A
Adware.win32 Fraud

I immediately scanned computer and found nothing, and i found nothing in mse history.

then if i an get this tile to post it was next, probably have to put it in next post with explanation as you ask for
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i cant get this tile to post so i wrote down EXACTLY as the warning reads:
visual, blue top border saying microsoft security essentials
under blue border, is a dark orange or yellow border saying: microsoft security essentials alert
now inside the borders of the alert window is a dark orange computer with an ! in the center. this is located on the left middle of window. the following alert is in the window:

you may be a victim of software counterfieting, mse will stop working in 29 days, to continue using mse and help protect your computer against malware, your copy of windows must be validated as genuine.
to learn how to get genuine windows, click "go online and resolve now"

go online and resolve now (button)

I tried the resolve now button, knowing i had a product key but it disappeared when i clicked on the button

this is the 2nd most recent events, I scanned away but cant find anything pertaining to the message.

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Old 26. Apr 2012, 09:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i mention "site" mistakenly, im refering to the mse scan site only, it does not change colors upon going to a different site, its consistantly bright neon blue and neon green. red was incorrect as a color mentioned, unless it captures something. the mse window is blue around the top edge and green just under the blue edge, within the window is a very distingushible web or net design with some gray all by default. your options are attached to the window.
it is not displaying any message.

I dont know if its possible but if I do have a fake a/v, I was going to move the complete os to an external drive, then come back to my computer with the possible fake mse, uninstall it, and replace with something else of my choice, then just play with the external drive for educational purposes, with a junk computer.

i have learned of wot now, as i used to use a different product that provided a similar service, but since sandboxie i haven't needed much help with that.

I'm not sure if that helps, but i cant load the tiles. I put them in paint and it ask for a url and i dont know how to obtain it,

If your able to understand what the people are saying in tech talk, theres evidently a problem with this in windows 7 and a quick search engine check will provide more info than a person can read, especially if your like me and have no clue whats being said, much to technical for me at this point,.....but im enrolled in class at my old age, they wont keep me down forever, lol.


we failed to address this in top post, forgot this VERY IMPORTANT observation, this morning I turned on the tower, and mse was displaying a red warning that my real time protection had been turned off, telling me my computer was unprotected, when i opened the site and clicked the red button, it would not go into protection mode until after about 30 minutes, i tried 5 times, then pulled the connection to the internet. If this is posible to believe, i update everything daily, I never miss a day. I also run some of the cool stuff here everyday as a precaution against any of the "wares", I'm so glad you folks introduced me to sandboxie.

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http://www.myantispyware.com/2009/01...-removal-tool/ this is a free site for the testing of usb items, thumb drives, about anything that requires an usb port. I dont know how good they are but i found it user friendly if they didnt send me a virus or something
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