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Old 13. Aug 2011, 03:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Anupam-- we keep bumping against each other here. Do you have any advice on what sort, size, or whatever about selecting an external hard drive. I have never had need to use one and haven't the faintest clue about giving one a go.

How do they come into play, do they reduce the amount of space taken on the internal drive, do you transfer programs or does the computer do that in some kind of automatic fashion.

Anyway, advice is always useful, and the Gizewisdom never fails to help.

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Old 13. Aug 2011, 05:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hi Sam... its a small forum, and we will often keep bumping into each other .

Well, about the kind of external drives to buy, I don't have much idea myself. Never had to buy one... and they are still a bit expensive for my budget.. although the rates have gone down.

I did some reading though, when I was considering for buying for a friend. I came to know there are small and big external drives(in physical size). Small ones are for use with notebooks, and laptops, so maybe you will prefer those. They are easier to carry around.

About size, they are available in different sizes(storing capacity). Choose the one which fits you best. If you have a lot of music, and movies to store, go for a bigger one. Much bigger hard drives are available nowadays, from 500 GB to 1 TB. Buy a good brand if you want to buy one. Prices will vary with capacity, and with the brands. You can know by looking at some hardware sites, or by asking for quotation at a computer store.

People mainly use external hard drives for backups. So, you just have to format them, and then store whatever files you want on them. You will have to transfer the files yourself. Let the programs and applications be on the main hard drive of your notebook/laptop, and use the external drive just as storage for other things, like music, and movies. You can carry it with you anywhere too. Just unplug it properly, and you are done.

I hope I explained enough. If there are corrections, some one else can make them... and they will also tell more who are more experienced with the external drives, and have been using them.
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Old 13. Aug 2011, 06:53 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Your overview was helpful-- and since I haven't really looked around I am not sure if my budget will take the hit for an external hard drive either.

Maybe as you said someone with more experience will pass along some additional knowledge.

Sometime it get so discouraging when I realize how little I know and how much there is that needs to be known. It makes me feel inaugurate to the task at times.

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Old 13. Aug 2011, 07:04 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Yes, some one with additional knowledge will have more information of course.

BTW, you haven't told yet, are you still getting the errors, or are they gone?

And don't get discouraged Sam. We all start from somewhere, and work our way up. Most of us are learners here.. still learning new things from others. I will say that I have learned a lot from this site, and interacting with knowledgeable people here. Still learning.

So, don't get disheartened, take it slow .
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Old 14. Aug 2011, 01:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I have taken the advice given by the folks who have responded to my question, Anupam, and it has had results. I have not had the error message since. I have not tried to add a large file (a movie or some such) but with smaller files it seems to be improved.

I hope one of the "GizWiz" guys will put together a guide to selecting and using an external hard drive. I suspect others would appreciate that as well.

Hope you are doing well.

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Old 14. Aug 2011, 07:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Hi samcraw,

Sounds like you've had some success with your problem
Out of interest, what settings have you applied to your paging file?

Without knowing your budget and where in the world you are makes it difficult to make any specific recommendations for a suitable external hard drive.

Having said that, from info contained in your previous posts, it sounds like a portable 2.5 inch USB powered drive would fit your requirements best with regards to portability.
Many are remarkably compact and, being able to get power directly from your PC, you wouldn't need to carry an extra power supply with you. Of course, it will be using power from your laptop battery which needs to be taken into consideration. Also, I believe some models need two available USB ports to get adequate power so you would need to bear this in mind when shopping.
They come in various storage sizes from 20GB to 1TB (or more) and vary widely in price and design so there's plenty to choose from. They tend to cost more per GB than the larger 3.5 inch desktop variety but are usually more robust, being designed to be able to survive a few knocks.

Usually of course, the best bargains and widest choice are to be found online.
Maybe start by looking at Newegg (if you're in the US??) or Amazon for example. Don't forget to study the reviews to find out any potential reliability issues for a given model.
Personally I love shopping around online for new tech, even if I don't intend to buy anything!
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Old 14. Aug 2011, 08:07 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I have taken the advice given by the folks who have responded to my question, Anupam, and it has had results. I have not had the error message since. I have not tried to add a large file (a movie or some such) but with smaller files it seems to be improved.
Good to know that the problem has gone now, and thanks for this feedback.

I had suspected that the problem must have gone away, since it was related to virtual memory, and I think it complained because the hard drive was nearly full.

You can add big files to the hard drive too Sam, and it won't be a problem. Just don't fill the hard drive too much, leave enough space. As in the earlier post, 10% of the space should be free atleast... and you won't get such an error.

I think getting an external drive, which fits your budget will do you good, since your needs seems to be of bigger space. 80 GB is too little.

I don't know if its possible, but if you can get a bigger hard drive in the notebook, maybe that would be a better idea than getting an external drive.

If you decide to go for an external drive though, Sope has made a good post .
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Old 15. Aug 2011, 03:06 PM   #28 (permalink)
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@Sope, I simply doubled the paging size. It was 750 and I upped it to 1500. I am not altogether what I am changing because the paging size is kinda confusing to me, but it seems to have worked so far.

@ Anupam, and others, I do live in the US so things can be cheaper here than in other parts of the world. This is not meant to be overly personal-- but to give a little background on myself, about 12 years ago I literally lost (over night) my ability to walk and explore the literal world.

So now most of my life now is a virtual one, and computers are central to all that.
The ability to have a machine that I can easily move around is primary to me keep some sense of normalcy-- thus the ability to use the note book for music and video-as well as e-mail and a small bit to surfing.

The external hard drive sounds like something definitely worth checking out for me.

Thanks all, and don't worry just my confusion along is a guarantee of your "GizJobs"!

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In lieu of a bulky external hard drive, you could purchase a large thumb drive (usb stick). I'm not sure how big they go, but you could get a lot of picture files or music on a 16 GB flash drive.

I'm curious if you ever installed CleanMem?
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@ kendall, Yes, I put it on both my laptop and my notebook as soon as I had a chance Saturday when you suggested it. It is hard of course to know what it is doing as it is all but invisible when it is going.

As for the thumb/flash/ whatever people call it/ drive they come as high as 32 at least that is what I have seen. Given that I can catch them on markdown frequently, I may decided to us that rather than ann external drive as it is infinitely portable, and a pocket full of them will take along almost anything I want.

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