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Old 05. Jul 2011, 08:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes, I may have to go for WD hard drive, if Samsung is not present. Lets see.

And yes, I have now decided to go for internal hard drive, because of the reasons you say.

Backing up is always a good thing, and should be done. But, my friend has loads of work of video, and GBs of data get filled in no time. To backup that amount of data is a difficult thing to do. Cant be done on any small media, and to backup that much data elsewhere requires another HDD of about same large size, which won't be possible, because of his budget issues. That's why, a reliable medium is of utmost importance. With the Seagate drive failing the second time in a span of few months, I am not pleased. Its in warranty, so it will get replaced, but till then, my friend's work will be stopped, which he can't afford to do. That's why we decided to go for another HDD.

I too have personally experienced failed Seagate HDDs with my computer. Quality has definitely decreased for Seagate. I have an old 8 GB Seagate IDE HDD, bought in 2000. It still runs, and has not developed problems. Must be some quality huh?

I will definitely post back on what we do .
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Old 05. Jul 2011, 09:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I went through this exercise last year. Lots of people recommended Seagate to me but after a lot of research I ended up with a WD 320GB My Passport (2010 model). It is USB 2.0 and I use it on XP/SP3. It is an external drive and I am very pleased with it. The internal HDD is 11yrs old and the system is used a lot ... I looked at the unit and it is IBM logo'd, but Belarc shows it as WD.

The unit runs quiet (no noise at all) and it stays cool. It is small. I do not use the WDSmart software that came with it (it does backups etc). I use free Paragon Drive Backup. I tested recovering my laptop from the unit and it worked without any problems.

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Old 05. Jul 2011, 09:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks emmjay .

Do you use the external WD drive for backup and storage, or do you use it often? How is the speed of operation with USB 2.0?
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Old 06. Jul 2011, 02:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Just to throw my .000002 cents in, if it were me I would go with a WD, Seagate has made great products, but of the last 6 drives I have bought from them over 2 years, 3 have gone bad. That is either a real outlier, or there is something going on with them.

From newegg I purchased 3 500GB drives, one was bad out of the box [well, bubble wrap]. About a year later, I switched those out for 1TB drives, since then I have lost 1 of the 500GB and one of the 1TB. And SMART is telling me another of the 1TB is not feeling too well these days. Really, it's a 4 out of 6 failure rate in 1-2 years, which isn't good at all.

I don't really know how you want to use the drive over time, [or anyone else interested], but an external drive can be very very handy to have. e-SATA is great, just don't get it, it's probably not long for this soon to be USB3.0 dominated world from what I read. Plus, they can use USB2.0 if that is all that's available. And, most BIOS/mobo's of the last few years can boot from them with no problem. The drives will not perform at internal speeds, but not too far behind.

Just to make this post longer, the new drives will most likely be advanced format, and this brings up a whole new batch of issues, not enough time or space to go into but you should be aware. At least these newer drives, 100MB/s is now slow.
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Old 06. Jul 2011, 03:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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crank, I have similar experience as yours. I have been using Seagate drives since the beginning, and it was an excellent brand in the early years, but since last few years, I too have lost a couple of drives. And they failed so badly, that it was really quite an effort to take my data out of them. I lost quite some amount of data because of the failed drives. And now, I am have seen two drives gone bad of my friend... that's why this time I want to go for other brands.

Also, there are an increasing number of complaints regarding Seagate drives on the internet at various places.

Seagate drives are hugely popular in India, and the people at shop themselves say to buy them, and earlier I did not have so much of idea regarding other drives. But, thanks to suggestions from here, and other forums, I now have a good idea.
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Old 06. Jul 2011, 05:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks emmjay .

Do you use the external WD drive for backup and storage, or do you use it often? How is the speed of operation with USB 2.0?
I have video and photos stored on the drive and these get updated on a regular basis. The USB 2.0 connection is pretty good considering I have an old laptop. My laptop hardware will never support USB3 and I understand that XP does not support it either.

I do use it for backup (re: my original post) as well. I have an XP ASR saved on it too but I have been warned that Windows Backup and Recovery does not work under XP most of the time (though I have never tried it).

NB: I tried a HP HDD on this system too and it ran quite well also. I now use it on my Vista desktop as a storage and backup unit. When I researched HDDs last year the new HP HDDs came in right at the top. I have never had any problems with the HP HDD (500GB) that I have and I would say that it is about 5 years old now.
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Thanks again for your helpful reply emmjay .
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Old 15. Jul 2011, 02:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I went to inquire about the hard drives today. Seagate and WD are the ones available.

As I am interested in WD, I inquired about it. The one they showed me was WD Caviar Green 1TB drive, with 64 MB cache(model WD10EARS).

Price difference between 500 GB, and 1 TB is not much, a 1000 rupees, so I am thinking of going with 1 TB drive.

I did not pay much attention to the color green at that time, and I did not ask if any more models were available, as I thought he must be showing what's available, and whats best.

However, when I came and looked on the internet for the drives, I now see that there are 3 models in Caviar... green, blue, and black.

I read a bit, and came to know that green uses less power, is less noisy, and efficient, but, its only 5400 RPM. The blue and black ones are having 7200 RPM. But, black one is noisy, and uses more power.

On the forums and some reviews that I read, they suggest that Caviar Green should be used for storage and backup etc, but otherwise its a good drive.

So, I think where performance and speed is required, we should go for Caviar Black, or Blue? Because my friend intends to do video and photo work more. So, for that a higher speed drive should be used?

I don't know if Caviar Black or Blue will be available at the shop. I will have to inquire. Indian markets are very typical. They might not be having other models.

One more thing that Caviar Blue does not have 64 MB cache at all. Only 32 MB, or 16 MB cache. Will this make any huge difference? Caviar black does have 64 MB cache.

I think earlier Caviar Green did not come in 64 MB cache, but it has started only recently.

If they do not have Caviar Black, should I go for Caviar Green, or should I go for Seagate drive instead?

Seagate drive is costly a bit than WD.

For 1 TB, the warranty is 3 years for both Seagate and WD. I however read that WD Caviar Black might be having 5 years warranty.
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OK, I inquired the shop, and they have Caviar Black, but its a lot more costly . My friend won't be able to afford it. So, we will have to go for Caviar Green, or Seagate 1 TB. Which one will you people recommend?

They don't have Samsung HDDs... shame.
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So, we will have to go for Caviar Green, or Seagate 1 TB. Which one will you people recommend?
Hi Anupam,

If you are considering the Caviar Green you may want to take a look at this interesing article.

Sounds like the performance is not that far behind the Caviar Black (if the model referred to is the one you are looking at) but if you intend to use it under XP you would need to follow the alignment advice in the article to maximise performance.
Worth a read.
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