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Old 07. Oct 2010, 05:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well heres what i found VMLite VirtualApps Studio was advertised as freeware, and i found more info on this site http://www.vmlite.com/index.php/prod...ualapps-studio But when i came to trying to find a download of the program i couldnt find any with that name. The only program i could find was VMware Thinapp which is not freeware but does have a 60 day trial.

Its quite like jauntePE in how it makes the programs but more complete, but from what iv seen so far it dont let you modify and update the programs you make, and since its not freeware i wont say no more about it.

SVS seems to be the beter choice, i got the latest verson 6. only downside is it has to be installed to use the programs you make. And i could not find the option to install to a selected or portable location, which would be alot better if i could install it to a usb.
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Old 07. Oct 2010, 09:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I found a reference over at wilders that sounds like VirtualApps Studio may still be in development. One of the guys over there got a preview of it all the way back in January. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=262351


Here is another similar product you might be interested in. http://www.evalaze.com/en/
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Old 08. Oct 2010, 02:15 AM   #23 (permalink)
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What I like about SVS is... If I can get my son to use a place to try out some of the game utilities without blowing up his OS, Its probably a worthy utility. In this way I think SVS does a good job. A sandbox that seems to work a lilttle easier for the young man.

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Old 08. Oct 2010, 02:27 AM   #24 (permalink)
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For more info on jauntepe http://sites.google.com/site/jauntepe/Home
also it was developed on portablefreewares.com so there is a section on there and a lot of people will help too.

I'd suggest using http://www.portablefreeware.com/foru...t=4224&start=0 to modify settings instead of manually editting the .ini. This program explains what settings are kind of, not detailed but enough to work way through. Of the apps to make things virtual/portable/sandboxed I like jaunte the best.

Of course another method is to use sandboxie portable and copy over the sandbox folders to new computers each time to keep what's inside. This is a hassle so I prefer jaunte. Best thing I like about jaunte is I can modify/update program without repacking it. If new verison is out I can just replace old files. IF I want to change a setting, then i change .ini.

edit: wanted to mention over at portableapps.com http://portableapps.com/development they have a some nice programs/tutorials for making programs portable. While this isn't sandbox persay... I see it as similar enough for what you want. Portable apps work towards keeping all registry/HDD writes to a minimum or none at all. So things that the program uses is self contained.

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Old 08. Oct 2010, 04:45 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Just a question here.
What do you all suggest I use to try to minimize the hazards that a young man does when installing rouge apps on his machine. What do you think is more friendly for a twelve year old? Sandbox, Jaunte or SVS? Or put another way which do you think a young person is more likely to use. I think SVS is best suited for this purpose.

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Old 08. Oct 2010, 05:54 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah SVS is probably best/easiest... since sandboxie/jaunte involves work to set up and can be disabled easily by user

An alternative to SVS is WonderShare's Time Freeze which I prefer. If you partition the harddrive and make a Data Partition, Wondershare won't protect the new partition so he can go on and do whatever in there and it'll stay around after reboot, good for schoolwork. Another reason I like the data partition is listed here http://www.techsupportalert.com/part...d-drives-2.htm. I'd redirect the My Documents folder to the data partition though if he uses it. Or make junction points so things get saved to it. This is so he doesn't loose schoolwork again. Plus if virus gets onto data partition, since the system partition is protected it wont be able to run after reboot. It will still be there however but "inactive" unless ran again or until antivirus removes it (side note, consider installing antivirus onto data partition so it keeps the updated databases through reboot or using a cloud based AV so databases aren't needed). This said you could protect data partition as well but that defeats purpose of leaving it unprotected so schoolwork isnt lost.
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What do you all suggest I use to try to minimize the hazards that a young man does when installing rouge apps on his machine. What do you think is more friendly for a twelve year old? Sandbox, Jaunte or SVS? Or put another way which do you think a young person is more likely to use. I think SVS is best suited for this purpose.
If I remember right, way back before this site (Gizmo's Freeware) was even started Gizmo and I exchanged emails about using SVS as a Sandboxie alternative. He dug up some information on SVS about some tests that were done and it was found that SVS can and does leak to the base system and allows read write access to files outside of the virtual layers. Because of this rogue apps could still wreak havoc on your system. In all fairness to SVS it was not developed to be a security sandbox.

On the other hand I remember on the old Altiris site that their team was working on adding some security measures to SVS but it was going to only be available in specialized paid version. I think some of that work was adopted into the current Symantec product but I don't know for sure.

I am sorry if I lead you down the wrong road with SVS. When I first mentioned SVS it was to answer the original post about using cameyo as an app virtualization solution in order to keep Windows at the peak performance only enjoyed at that fresh installed condition. I was not intending it to be taken as a alternative to Security focused apps like Sandboxie or as means of creating portable apps like SystemCrash was really wanting.

I think the better solution for you would be a product like Time Freeze, Returnil, or Windows Steady State.

http://www.wondershare.com/pro/time-freeze-free.html
http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com...il-system-safe
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/e...displaylang=en
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Ritho: i agree with you on this, SVS i a great app if you dont want to install programs to your computer, that would keep performace, but if you want another program without installing you would need another computer to make the program and export then import it on the computer that you want the program on. After i make some of my programs portable i may use this method.

I have download Evalaze, but when it download it said it was a techpreview and not for comercial use. To be honest iim not sure what that means? i have not used it yet but does it mean the program is restricted?



wdhpr: i dont recamend using SVS as a security program, I use sandboxie to use the internet so nothing leaks out. And to test certain programs installs incase it may contain a virus. And i use Time Freeze set to stay active on my C:\Windows drive and use other partitions for My documents and pictures ect. I have used Returnil before but when they added the antivirus i had conflictiting issues and had to unistall it. But with returnil He could install programs and they would stay there every time he reboots until you or he decide to keep changes and they would all import to your system or delete changes and everything in the returnil sandbox will be deleted games and programs. Both Returnil and Time Freeze can be password protected.

There are other threads about computer security floating on gizmo around that you could also look at, I think i even started on ages ago
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