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Old 07. Sep 2010, 09:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I got this PC that when I tried to turn it on after the bios post comes up. right before windows tries to load it restart, but occasionally it goes through, and windows successfully starts, but after a couple of minutes, like 5 minutes to an hour the PC just restart. I changed the Bios Batt, Changed the CD Rom, And CPU Fan. I still get the same problem. So I Now I Decided to change the settings on system failure to just throw me the Blue screen of death. right after I change the setting, like 30 seconds after my PC restarted again, it restarted it self for like 3 times then posted the Blue screen and I got This



( if you guys cant see it the error code is :

Stop: 0x00000050 (0xF8940999, 0x00000001, 0x80717E16, 0x00000000) )

well after this happened, I turned the pc off, let it be for like 5 minutes, I restart again, the PC successfully boots all the way to the desktop, I dont touch it at all and I let it be for like 15 minutes, suddenly I get the Blue screen of death, and this time is little different an I get this....



Error code on this one is :

Stop: 0x0000000A (0x00000000, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0x804D7003)

Update:

I restarted the computer again and it goes through all the way to desktop, Took around 30 minutes, I connect a USB external HD and I get another BlueScreen, which is this one.




error code:

0x00000050 (0xF4410000, 0x00000000, 0xF83A4F77, 0x00000000)

Ntfs.sys - Address F83AF77 Base at F83A3000, DateStamp 48025be5

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Old 07. Sep 2010, 10:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try burning this to a disc and running it.

http://www.memtest.org/

If it shows any errors and you have more than one memory card try removing them one at a time and re-running the test to find out which one is faulty. Even reseating the cards might cure it. If you only have one card and it's showing errors then you need a new one

Could equally be something else but this test will at least eliminate another hardware possibility.

Try checking Device Manager too to see if anything like "?" is showing there.
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Old 08. Sep 2010, 02:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I ran the memtest program for 4 hours didnt find any errors. the problem still happening.
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Old 08. Sep 2010, 07:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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We will need some more details to understand whats causing the problem.

What is your OS?

Which antivirus do you have installed on your PC?
Did you install any new hardware recently, or did you install/update any drivers?

Did you install any software recently, after which the problems started?

What changes did you make to the BIOS, after which the BSOD(Blue Screen of Death) started? If you remember those changes, try reverting them back. If not, try resetting to default values for BIOS.

How many sticks of RAM do you have? If you have more than one, you can try using one stick at a time and see how the computer behaves.
Are you sure you performed the RAM tests on all your RAM sticks?
You can also take out the RAM, clean the contacts with an eraser, blow out any dust, and reseat the sticks.

The problem can be related to a virus too. Did you scan your PC well? What all antivirus/antimalware have you got?

What items are there in the startup? It is possible that an item in the startup is causing the problem. But, since, the computer boots up and stays OK for sometime, the problem may be elsewhere.

You can take a look in the Events Log to see what errors(if any) are you getting there. The errors may give you an indication of the problem.

Please take some time, and answer these questions, so we can find out the exact cause.
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Old 08. Sep 2010, 10:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What is your OS? I got Windows XP Pro SP3

Which antivirus do you have installed on your PC? AVG
Did you install any new hardware recently, or did you install/update any drivers? Its a New OS Installation, and I changed the CD Rom for a new one, and Also a new Fan Cuz last one Failed

Did you install any software recently, after which the problems started? is a new OS installation

What changes did you make to the BIOS, after which the BSOD(Blue Screen of Death) started?If you remember those changes, try reverting them back. If not, try resetting to default values for BIOS.

I resetted to default values

How many sticks of RAM do you have? I have twoIf you have more than one, you can try using one stick at a time and see how the computer behaves. The computer Locks up right before windows start to load
Are you sure you performed the RAM tests on all your RAM sticks?wierd the way It happened I tested them both together they passed the test, then I tested one, Failed the test, I tested the other one passed the test, then I tried the one that failed the test again, but this time it passed the test.
You can also take out the RAM, clean the contacts with an eraser, blow out any dust, and reseat the sticks. I done it.

The problem can be related to a virus too. Did you scan your PC well? What all antivirus/antimalware have you got? I got spybot and AVG free

What items are there in the startup? NONE It is possible that an item in the startup is causing the problem. But, since, the computer boots up and stays OK for sometime, the problem may be elsewhere.

You can take a look in the Events Log to see what errors(if any) are you getting there. The errors may give you an indication of the problem. I cant boot anymore, New problem. right after bios, the pc shows an error that says that the CPU Fan Failed, Its a new CPU Fan, BUT is still spining and from what I can see is like a bug or something, cuz is spinning

Please take some time, and answer these questions, so we can find out the exact cause.
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Are you sure you performed the RAM tests on all your RAM sticks?wierd the way It happened I tested them both together they passed the test, then I tested one, Failed the test, I tested the other one passed the test, then I tried the one that failed the test again, but this time it passed the test.
It's not often for memory cards to fail intermittently. Were you rotating these in the slots too? Sometimes this is where the problem lies. If there's a spare slot which hasn't been used before then you could try them one at a time in there after carefully blowing the dust out first. If you get consistent error free results after quite a few passes, try booting the machine without doing anything else. It does sound at least partially memory related so another option is to take both cards to a service point and have them tested properly. At least this will eliminate or prove one of the possible causes.
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Old 09. Sep 2010, 12:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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yeah i was starting to do that but now the pc after the bios post throws me a message error like this one



it would be nice if the actual fan would have failed, I would just change it, but the Fan is actually working. so Idk what to do, plus when I try to get into the BIOS it doesnt let me the error pops up when the bios is loading
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Both of these errors point out to a faulty ram
i would suggest that u remove the fan for the time being and concentrate on these errors

since u found out its a ram error [wierd the way It happened I tested them both together they passed the test, then I tested one, Failed the test, I tested the other one passed the test, then I tried the one that failed the test again, but this time it passed the test.] try running only on the proper ram and see if the problem arises again

when i used to get irql error it was due to driver problem but in ur case it seems ram problem

remove the fan and try the mentioned suggestions by all
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SilentSly, from what you describe, it seems that this is more of a hardware error, since you say the OS is newly installed. So, I doubt that this is something to do with software. Although, to confirm this, you can check the event logs, and see if any errors are shown there, which might be related to drivers. Event Logs can be accessed from Control Panel --> Administrative Tools --> Event Viewer.

Also, right click "My Computer", select Properties. Click on the Hardware tab, and click on "Device Manager". See if there any yellow question marks in front of any entry. If yes, you will need to find drivers for that piece of hardware.

From your post, it seems that one of the RAM is faulty. I would advise checking the RAM sticks again, one at a time. Make sure the sticks are properly seated. Was the system recently assembled? If yes, by whom? If it was assembled at a shop, you can take the PC back to their shop, and ask them to check the RAM, and replace it if faulty. It will be in warranty period, and so they should replace it.

Did you change the CPU fan yourself? Are you sure that its the right fan for the CPU? If yes, is the power terminal for the fan properly selected? Sometimes, if the power for the fan is not fitted on the proper place, then the BIOS detects wrongly, that the fan is not there. So, that might be the case with you. On the motherboard, its written against the CPU fan power terminal, to indicate that the terminal is for the CPU fan. Make sure that you have connected the terminal there. If you are still having problems with it, I would advise taking it to a repair shop, or from where you got the system assembled.

As against Av_Crazy's advice, I would advise to solve the fan matter first. Because, without a fan, overheating problems can occur, which can damage the CPU, or other motherboard parts. So, first solve that problem. After that, diagnose the other problem of BSOD. Most probably, its the RAM.
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