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Old 12. May 2010, 04:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I hope this is the correct subforum to post this.
Like every other Tuesday, yesterday I helped my brother with the download & installation of the MS patches - I prefer to do them manually for both of us.
Among them there was a patch for .NET framework 3.0 - sth about SP1. He's been getting this for the last 3-4 patch Tuesdays now.
The funny thing is that he doesn't have any version of .NET frameworks installed - double checked via Add/ Remove Programs and Revo Uninstaller (things like this is exactly the reason I prefer to go through the patches manually).

My question:
Why does MS think he should install that patch? Anyone else with the same experience?

Thanks in advance,
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Old 12. May 2010, 08:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You could try this .NET verification tool. It checks to see if there's something on your machine that has anything to do with .NET .. files, directories, reg keys etc. Are you sure .NET hasn't been installed and then removed at some point ?

There's also a .NET clean up tool here, should you find anything. I've used this before and it works well.

Alternatively you can always just hide the update by using Windows Update. Run the updater and when it presents the list, click the + sign next to the patch you're referring to and then check the box that says 'don't show this update again' It should then stop pestering you to install it. That's the easiest way if you don't want, or need to try the others.
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Old 13. May 2010, 01:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Okay, I have seen this happen before but I couldn't remember the circumstances, so I phoned the guy who it happened to. The problem started because he part installed .NET. He decided to install it but during the process the install stalled so he cancelled it, everything froze so he turned the machine off and re booted [that's the part I couldn't remember] But after doing that, for whatever reason, he started getting the update prompts for .NET patches, even though it didn't show that .NET was installed, in add remove etc.

That's why I ended up running the .NET Framework clean up utility [the one in the link] I set it to clean up 'all versions' and ran it, re booted and the problem was solved. There must have been something on there that was prompting the patch alerts, although I don't know what it was, I just decided to run the tool and it worked. Sounds weird, I know, but the problem you describe sounds similar, although I'm not saying it's the same problem. Sorry to be so vague, but it might be worth a try.
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Patching my computers .NET Framework has been a disaster for some time now. I ignored it because I only had a few programs that rely on it. I ran the .NET tools you had linked to. The verification tool results showed .NET Framework on my computer was a train wreck . I then Ran the clean up tool and it did a great job of getting rid of of all the .NET software on my computer.

I then went to Microsoft and downloaded the latest version of .NET Framework. I believe it was version 3.5
I then had to complete a series of updates and patches, which all went well.

In doing this I believe I closed some security loop holes and would recommend others to perform these task as well

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Old 16. May 2010, 08:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi,
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You could try this .NET verification tool. It checks to see if there's something on your machine that has anything to do with .NET .. files, directories, reg keys etc. Are you sure .NET hasn't been installed and then removed at some point ?

There's also a .NET clean up tool here, should you find anything. I've used this before and it works well.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I had completely forgotten about these tools.
I didn't think about possible leftovers, as I clean installed the OS just about a month ago, doing a full format.
Surprisingly, the 2nd tool did some cleaning in the registry though the 1st didn't find anything.
Next patch Tuesday will tell if the problem's solved for good.

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Alternatively you can always just hide the update by using Windows Update. Run the updater and when it presents the list, click the + sign next to the patch you're referring to and then check the box that says 'don't show this update again' It should then stop pestering you to install it. That's the easiest way if you don't want, or need to try the others.
I've already hidden (as in hide & forget) a couple of things (like the Presentation Foundation thingy), so I don't want to add any .NET updates, as he might get some work-related app in the future which relies on .NET.

Thanks for the help,
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