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J_L 26. Apr 2010 05:19 AM

New Acer Netbook 8 gb SSD
 
It has Windows XP SP3 on it and lots of Acer crap (including a visible spyware). Currently I've removed most of the bloat, and is disinfecting the computer.

Any tips for me Anupam? I know you had an 8 gb hard drive before with Windows XP. Everyone else may include their recommendations.

edit:
Made a mistake about trojan, but there is possible spyware.

J_L 26. Apr 2010 05:53 AM

Okay, malwarebytes did not detect anything for some reason..

Finally disabled Acer GAIA with Autoruns. All other unnecessary driver startups are also disabled.

Removed extra language files and software restore is disabled by default.

Can I remove some of the driver software without removing the drivers themselves?

freedog96150 26. Apr 2010 06:21 AM

Despite the unfortunate name, I have had pretty good luck with PCDecrapifier to remove a good amount of the pre-installed "crap" that comes on these brand name computers. I normally jump into Add/Remove programs, click on Windows Components and then cherry pick the components that I feel I need for that install. For instance, I normally rip out paint as well as media player and messenger.

My experience with removing driver software has been positive with Video, network and printer drivers. Audio has been a weird one. I normally only install the drivers by performing a manual install of needed drivers instead of running the install disks.

Good luck!

J_L 26. Apr 2010 06:33 AM

So that was the software! Damn I totally forgot what the name was! Searched but couldn't find it with what I remember.
Well all of the visible to user bloat is removed already, but I guess I can still try it out.

Uninstalled IE 7, disabled Messenger, Outlook, IE 6, Windows Media Player, etc.
Installed Firefox (I know there are lighter browsers, but this is the only one with guaranteed NoScript compatibility)

Currently left with Aver Crystal Eye webcam, Atheros for Acer Driver Foxconn Installation Program, REALTEK GbE & FE Ethernet PCI-E NIC Driver, Realtek High Definition Audio Driver, and Synaptics Pointing Device Driver.

J_L 26. Apr 2010 07:25 AM

@freedog96150: Thanks!

Tried out PcDecrapifier, nothing detected (which means I did quite a though job).
Installed CCleaner and chose every item excluding DNS cache, Start Menu Shortcuts, Desktop Shortcuts, Custom Files and Folders, Wipe Free Space. Saved me 15 mb.

I'm going to manually install Windows Updates with my flash drive. Saves space and time (the ssd is on the slower side, it was refurbished).

Also going to install a ramdisk with imaging (512 mb, 1.5 gb RAM total). Next are SandBoxie, Macrium Reflect, 7-zip, VLC or KM Player, and Irfanview.
Gonna install most of it in RamDisk (excluding SandBoxie and maybe Macrium Reflect). Gonna move Firefox, Ccleaner, and Malwarebytes' to the Ramdisk as well.

Well there are some file not found on my autoruns, should I disable them?

That's it for the night, awaiting good replies by tomorrow.

Anupam 26. Apr 2010 01:01 PM

Yep J.L., I have a 8 GB hard disk with XP SP2 on it. 8 GB is a really small hard drive to have, specially in present times. But, this hard disk has been with me since my first computer in 2000. And I turn to it in case of emergency. Till date, 3 of my other hard disks have gone bad... but this one still goes on.

That's what I really do not like with the branded computers like Acer, HP, Compaq etc. They come pre-installed with so many junk which we really do not need, specially us freeware users. I would first go uninstalling the extra components and software, which are not needed.

Also, you have already taken the steps to remove unnecessary Windows components. For that, you can use Revo Uninstaller. In the Options, under Uninstaller... you can tick the check box for "Show system components", and it will show Windows components not normally seen from Add/Remove.

I keep Windows updates off when I use 8 GB hard disk. The updates take up a lot of space, and also keep their hot fixes setups stored on the disk, which take up space too. I also turn off the System Restore, since restore points are also space consumers. If you do not want to keep that off, then you can make use off CCleaner to remove individual restore points on daily basis.

Next, I install only the necessary programs on my PC. I install an AV, and if required, a firewall. I do not install both MBAM, and SAS. I just install MBAM, and keep it updated.

Instead of heavy media player like VLC, or KM Player, I use Media Player Classic Home Cinema. For my needs, it works well, and can play music too. For smaller music players, I go for 1by1, Xion, or XMPlay. These are very light, if you only want to play MP3.

For pdf reader, I use Sumatra Pdf Reader. Its very small, but works really well if you do not have to open really complex pdfs.

On smaller hard disks, you might want to keep track of where the space is being used. So, for that you can make use of software like TreeSize, or WinDirStat, which show you where space is being used.

I would not bother much with the drivers, since I would not be sure, if any of them might be required for proper functioning of the system. I don't mess around in that area. Still, you can check and remove only the unnecessary ones. To be on the safe side, you can make use of a drive backup utility(I think DoubleDriver does that).

I hope all this is useful. If I remember more, I will share here.

Anupam 26. Apr 2010 01:05 PM

OK, some more points to add. I do not install any codec pack, they are really unnecessary, I have found.

To play DIVX or avi movies, you can install the XVID codec. Its very small and works really well. If some movies still do not work, then you can install the DIVX codec. Mind you, only the codec, because if you get the DIVX bundle, it is a large install. For sound, you can install the AC3 codec. It takes care of sound for most movies, and is really small. For playing real media, and quick time media formats, you can install Real Alternative, and Quick Time Alternative.

vasa1 26. Apr 2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 27636)
....If you do not want to keep that off, then you can make use off CCleaner to remove individual restore points on daily basis.

...

Hi, this is what CCleaner says in their documentation:
Note: CCleaner removes references to the System Restore points, but may not actually remove all files related to each point.

Anupam 26. Apr 2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasa1 (Post 27642)
Note: CCleaner removes references to the System Restore points, but may not actually remove all files related to each point.

Aha! That's quite interesting. But what's the use then, if the files related do not get removed. The space won't be freed then. That's confusing. I have used this feature on my brother's laptop many times, and after removing the restore points, space does get freed up.

Might be a good point to ask on their forum.
BTW, a new version of CCleaner is just out.

vasa1 26. Apr 2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 27643)
Aha! That's quite interesting. But what's the use then, if the files related do not get removed. The space won't be freed then. That's confusing. I have used this feature on my brother's laptop many times, and after removing the restore points, space does get freed up.

Might be a good point to ask on their forum.
BTW, a new version of CCleaner is just out.

I have been using the facility provided by Windows' Disk Cleanup to remove all old Restore points. But one has to do it for each drive. And the amount of space to be freed up is not shown beforehand.

vasa1 26. Apr 2010 04:00 PM

As a general point, it may help to see if the software you want has been made portable @ portableapps.com. These versions are slightly smaller and the claim, if I remember right, is that they read/write less. One disadvantage is that one has to wait a few days / weeks before the portable version is available.

J_L 26. Apr 2010 11:30 PM

Okay, change of plans. Going to install XP Pro on it instead of Home. Found all the necessary drivers online (hopefully they will include an option to opt-out of unnecessary stuff).

Thanks for the tips.

J_L 27. Apr 2010 02:43 AM

Turn out the unnecessary stuff aren't even part of the drivers I downloaded.
Only installed necessary drivers, other ones are backed up just in case

Everything is still working fine, in fact, better than before!

J_L 27. Apr 2010 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 27636)
Yep J.L., I have a 8 GB hard disk with XP SP2 on it. 8 GB is a really small hard drive to have, specially in present times. But, this hard disk has been with me since my first computer in 2000. And I turn to it in case of emergency. Till date, 3 of my other hard disks have gone bad... but this one still goes on.

That's what I really do not like with the branded computers like Acer, HP, Compaq etc. They come pre-installed with so many junk which we really do not need, specially us freeware users. I would first go uninstalling the extra components and software, which are not needed.

Also, you have already taken the steps to remove unnecessary Windows components. For that, you can use Revo Uninstaller. In the Options, under Uninstaller... you can tick the check box for "Show system components", and it will show Windows components not normally seen from Add/Remove.

I keep Windows updates off when I use 8 GB hard disk. The updates take up a lot of space, and also keep their hot fixes setups stored on the disk, which take up space too. I also turn off the System Restore, since restore points are also space consumers. If you do not want to keep that off, then you can make use off CCleaner to remove individual restore points on daily basis.

Next, I install only the necessary programs on my PC. I install an AV, and if required, a firewall. I do not install both MBAM, and SAS. I just install MBAM, and keep it updated.

Instead of heavy media player like VLC, or KM Player, I use Media Player Classic Home Cinema. For my needs, it works well, and can play music too. For smaller music players, I go for 1by1, Xion, or XMPlay. These are very light, if you only want to play MP3.

For pdf reader, I use Sumatra Pdf Reader. Its very small, but works really well if you do not have to open really complex pdfs.

On smaller hard disks, you might want to keep track of where the space is being used. So, for that you can make use of software like TreeSize, or WinDirStat, which show you where space is being used.

I would not bother much with the drivers, since I would not be sure, if any of them might be required for proper functioning of the system. I don't mess around in that area. Still, you can check and remove only the unnecessary ones. To be on the safe side, you can make use of a drive backup utility(I think DoubleDriver does that).

I hope all this is useful. If I remember more, I will share here.

Thanks, very useful tips there.

About the Revo Uninstaller, does it use the same show system components as Add/Remove Windows Components shown on the left-hand side of Add or Remove Programs?

I believe VLC and KM Player installs their codecs in their program folder right?
Therefore, I want to install them instead in my RamDisk, because of not only speed issues, but squeezing as much life out of the SSD as possible.

About Sumatra, how does it compare to Cool PDF Reader? Since I'm going to install either in my RamDisk, I doubt the SSD would be much of a factor.

I'll get WinDirStat, almost forgot about that!

Also going to get RealAlternative too, cause I like Anime. The newest version of QuickTime alternative now needs proprietary Apple junk installed to function!

J_L 27. Apr 2010 04:52 AM

Okay, this SSD is not good, after 3.5 gb, it gets REAL slow.
Going to return and get new one, next time gonna try Linux to make these last longer. According to Ubuntu Netbook remix, it is compatible, except for a few problems with sound recording and media card reader is not hotpluggable (both I don't really need).

Anupam 27. Apr 2010 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.L. (Post 27668)
About the Revo Uninstaller, does it use the same show system components as Add/Remove Windows Components shown on the left-hand side of Add or Remove Programs?

Hmm, I never compared that. But, I think it shows different components. You can try yourself, and see the difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.L. (Post 27668)
I believe VLC and KM Player installs their codecs in their program folder right?
Therefore, I want to install them instead in my RamDisk, because of not only speed issues, but squeezing as much life out of the SSD as possible.

I don't have any idea about that question. And I don't know about RamDisk too... so can't help with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.L. (Post 27668)
About Sumatra, how does it compare to Cool PDF Reader?

I haven't used Cool Pdf Reader, just Sumatra. You can install Sumatra and compare it. Use the one which suits you. Idea is to use software which take up less space, and get your work done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.L. (Post 27668)
The newest version of QuickTime alternative now needs proprietary Apple junk installed to function!

Yes, Apple products install a lot of junk on the system. I avoid them as much as I can. Thank God, I don't have an iPod :D.

Anupam 27. Apr 2010 08:56 AM

If you want to try another OS on the netbook, then you can give Moblin a try. Its based on Linux. I have read some good reviews about it. The looks are modern, works well... and boots almost instantaneously.

Sope 27. Apr 2010 01:49 PM

If you decide to try installing XP again then you may find nlite useful to slipstream and slim down the install.

J_L 28. Apr 2010 12:11 AM

Finally got a new one, I've decided to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, because it's popular and well-supported with many linux freeware. Tried out the 9.10 live cd, very impressed with the interface and the power of Ubuntu. It's mostly compatible, all of the hardware will work, maybe not as well as in Windows, but good enough.
Just a few questions before I install it. Does version 10.04 for Ubuntu Netbook Remix have long-term support as well? When will it be released? (I know Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is released at April 29, but not sure about its derivatives)

Moblin seems interesting as well, but ultimately I'd go with Ubuntu.

XP's interface is too cumbersome with the touchpad especially if compared to it.

HeWhoRocks 28. Apr 2010 01:03 PM

There is a version of Linux specifically designed for your netbook: Linpus Linux Lite, but it only seems to be available for download as a trial version.
I recently installed XP on the same model machine that you have and you will definitely be better off with Linux in my view. If the machine were mine i would have left Linux on it.

I wouldn't normally link to wikipedia but this may be helpful http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_Aspire_One

Ritho 28. Apr 2010 02:20 PM

I have an Aspire One (model ZG5) with a SSD. I have tried several of the linux distros designed for the Acer Aspire One.

Moblin boot speed of 5 to 10 seconds depending on your model is nice, but Moblin by itself is a bit limited. Moblin 2.0 ran very smoothly on my netbook. There is also a OpenSuse moblin remix and a Ubuntu Moblin remix that are full featured. Both being based on Moblin 2.1 kept having kernel errors and crashes on my Acer as did the plain Moblin 2.1. The Moblin re-mixs lost their fast boot speeds and thus their appeal for me. It may have been an incompatibility with my particular model but the Ubuntu version took almost two minutes to boot. In all the versions all the hardware worked out of the box, and battery life was very good.

Ubuntu Netbook remix 9.10. Boot time was about 1 minute. Once up an running most everything worked smoothly. All the hardware worked out of the box as well. My two main complaints were that flash video in any browser was very choppy, and battery life was not all that good.

EasyPeasy. Worked well, but had the same video issues. A bit better than Ubuntu Netbook Remix. Battery life was a little better I think. Nothing extraordinary here, but is a full featured OS. Uses the Netbook Remix GUI.

Linux4one. Don't remember much about this one. It was not overly impressive I guess.

Kuki Linux
. This is my current OS. It runs smoothly and has a good balance of features and boot time. (40 sec.) All the hardware works, but the keyboard function for volume will only lower the volume, not increase it.

Next ones I am planing on trying are Ubuntu 10.4 as it is supposed to have superior boot times (3.6 sec. )for SSD's and I also will probably try Jolicloud. I am also thinking about trying Mandriva. When it is ready I will probably tinker with Meego but suspect it might have the kernel problems I experienced with Moblin 2.1.

Here is a great list of netbook tuned distros. http://www.linux-netbook.com/linux/distributions

J_L 28. Apr 2010 11:15 PM

I'm choosing Ubuntu because it definitely supports the software I need. Also waiting for 10.04, which happens to be released on my birthday! (unless some serious bug occurs)

J_L 29. Apr 2010 10:59 PM

It's here! Not labeled LTS though.. Still, hope the improvements will be worth the wait.
How is this version of Ubuntu being supported for anyways?

J_L 30. Apr 2010 06:00 AM

Really like the newer version, albeit the gui didn't really improve.
The speed is great, took less than 20 seconds to boot and autologin (plus I added a ramdisk for /tmp). Really impressed with all the features and software compatability.

Definitely a keeper for me!

J_L 02. May 2010 12:40 AM

Wow, it's harder than I thought, had to use the Terminal a lot.
Also made mistakes along the way, but I finally finished getting everything essential on it.

You may close this thread.

labelle 27. Jun 2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 27637)
OK, some more points to add. I do not install any codec pack, they are really unnecessary, I have found.

To play DIVX or avi movies, you can install the XVID codec. Its very small and works really well. If some movies still do not work, then you can install the DIVX codec. Mind you, only the codec, because if you get the DIVX bundle, it is a large install. For sound, you can install the AC3 codec. It takes care of sound for most movies, and is really small. For playing real media, and quick time media formats, you can install Real Alternative, and Quick Time Alternative.



If the file has downloaded correctly, and is good... but still not able to play, then you should either download the Xvid codec, or DivX codec. One of this codec is required to be on the system, in order to play AVI movies. __________________


Hello again Anupam, (Above in BOLD)

Is the above not the exact opposite to what you told me?
I too have an Acer Aspire 29302 and yes it's full of crap i cant get rid of. Its only a 2g so space is at a premium. I need a word program to edit my c.V. as i'm looking for work, but i cant get the office suite removed.The only things ive managed to delete are the games.I dread to think of the amount of stuff i cant see.I've had to system restore twice as i have had maLaware problems, so i'l need the room to install some decent protection. I have AVG 0.9 at present. I dont like vista and we tried to remove it and install XP but again we failed. Is there a quick fix that a novice like myself could tackle? I hate to keep bothering my brother as he has "Found Love" and therefore useless at present lol.

Bell :(

J_L 27. Jun 2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by labelle (Post 31313)
Hello again Anupam,

Is the above not the exact opposite to what you told me?
I too have an Acer Aspire 29302 and yes it's full of crap i cant get rid of. Its only a 2g so space is at a premium. I need a word program to edit my c.V. as i'm looking for work, but i cant get the office suite removed.The only things ive managed to delete are the games.I dread to think of the amount of stuff i cant see.I've had to system restore twice as i have had maLaware problems, so i'l need the room to install some decent protection. I have AVG 0.9 at present. I dont like vista and we tried to remove it and install XP but again we failed. Is there a quick fix that a novice like myself could tackle? I hate to keep bothering my brother as he has "Found Love" and therefore useless at present lol.

Bell :(

Try PC Decrapifier to remove all the junk. Also use CCleaner after that.

As for AVG, it's not doing so well these days. Avira, Avast, MSE, and Panda Cloud are better imo.

As for good security setup advice:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/how-...re-your-pc.php
http://dev.urltrim.com/secwiz

labelle 28. Jun 2010 12:28 AM

Thank you so much,
I'm trying to locate a download for opencandy right now as the one that came in the mediainfo package didnt work.

again many thanks.

bell ;):cool:

Anupam 28. Jun 2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 27637)
To play DIVX or avi movies, you can install the XVID codec. Its very small and works really well. If some movies still do not work, then you can install the DIVX codec. Mind you, only the codec, because if you get the DIVX bundle, it is a large install. For sound, you can install the AC3 codec. It takes care of sound for most movies, and is really small. For playing real media, and quick time media formats, you can install Real Alternative, and Quick Time Alternative.

This is from other thread :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 31302)
If the file has downloaded correctly, and is good... but still not able to play, then you should either download the Xvid codec, or DivX codec. One of this codec is required to be on the system, in order to play AVI movies.

Above two posts of mine are not opposite, or conflicting? Please point out why you feel so? :).

In both of them, I have told that, if you are not able to play AVI movies, then you should install the Xvid Codec, or the DivX codec. I install Xvid codec, because its small in size and works well. But, some AVI movies require DivX codec, so it can be installed too. It comes bundled with DivX player... so its quite heavy... but I think you can choose not to install the player, or other things... just the codec. The codec may be available as standalone, but I am not sure, or don't remember.

As J.L. said, AVG is not considered to be a good antivirus nowadays. You can install the others which J.L. suggested.

2 GB hard disk is too small to work with. I don't know how you are able to manage things on it. Its too hard.

If you require a Word like software to work on, you can try Jarte, or Abiword. Both are very good.

Please do not install OpenCandy. Its not needed to run MediaInfo. Its an extra piece of software which comes bundled with MediaInfo. Its better not to select it, when you install MediaInfo.


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