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Old 04. Dec 2009, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been asked to set up my little sisters laptop which she getting for Christmas so she can use it straight away and would like the experts of gizmo to tell me what is the best way to do this...

Shes 12

I have partitioned a couple of drives before but need some advice.
If i change the location of the My Documents folder to another partition D:\
all save will go there and downloads from the download manager...

Is it possible to hide the C:\ drive from the My computer so the user does not have direct access only the computer when installing new programs or updates?
so she cant accidentally go into it and delete anything.

Also about the internet.. I intend to adjust the security level on firefox and googles search and Wot.. but there are some child friendly internet browsers around any ideas what is the best? or how to generally set it up?

To keep the computer safe and working and to keep her innocence innocent.
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Old 04. Dec 2009, 06:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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One free and easy way to keep your children safer online is to use OpenDNS:
"Keeping your family safe online has never been easier. OpenDNS gives you more than 50 filtering categories to choose from. Simply check the boxes of the categories you want to block and watch your filtering take effect within minutes."
It's not software, so it takes no installation and no system resources.
However, it's best if you want to block those categories permanently, it's a little more of a pain if you only want to block those categories for your children.
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Old 04. Dec 2009, 07:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Apart from OpenDNS as suggested, I would also suggest these two softwares.

One is KidZui, a very popular browser for kids. You can check it out. The site says suitable for years 3-12. I don't know if your sister would want to use it or not, if it does not offer much features. I haven't used it, but its very popular.

The other is K9 Web Protection. This is an internet filtering, and control software, which is again very popular.

You can check these both out. You might also want to use a good antivirus like Avast, which offers a web shield, to scan pages for malicious sites, or scripts... as your sister might want to use social sites like MySpace, or Facebook. These sites, if not used properly, can be the cause of malware infection.

You can create a limited account for her, if you do not want her to mess around with the important system files.
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Old 04. Dec 2009, 09:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If i set it up with a limited account will microsoft automatic updates still install as it will be mainly her using the laptop no one else.

I was goning to install comodo with comodo dns but Open DNS seems to be the better choice for her...

but isnt Open DNS just for the server? If she takes her laptop to her friends house to use the internet the server obviously would have changed and she wont be protected right?

so il install K9 web protection suggested by Anupam

but im unsure whether to use Open DNS or Comodo DNS

Thanks for the response
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Old 04. Dec 2009, 11:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You can turn off the Windows Update from the Services, if you want. So, it won't be a bother. When you want to update, you can turn it on again.

The server won't change, unless it is changed manually. So you don't need to worry about it. Just the IP will change, if dynamic IP is being used.

About choosing between Open DNS and Comodo DNS, someone else might tell, as I don't have much idea about it.
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The biggest challenge in this area, despite the availability of protective software assistance, is that she will immediately want to visit the very sites most affected by malware such as Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter etc. Added to that, all of the really great and well intentioned advice that you and/or her parents provide will be immediately rubbished by all of her friends. Bear in mind the peer pressures at this age, and the mal-intent likely to target her new laptop out of jealousy. No doubt some of her friends will be more than happy to see it rendered un-usable in the shortest time possible

Short of being really nice and then praying, the safest solution would be to load it with Ubuntu instead of Windows. There's nothing a person of her age would want that can't be done with this just as easily once it's set up, but because installing stuff is more difficult, this in itself becomes an automatic safety barrier for at least one area of risk. Whatever the eventual choices though perhaps the biggest risk will be when the laptop is being used "remotely" i.e. out of the house with other kids queueing up to stick pendrives and CD's into it!

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You can actually set up OpenDNS via her computer/laptop. Go to this page that gives you clear directions on how to do this:

https://store.opendns.com/setup/computer/
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Old 05. Dec 2009, 01:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If you're going to install Comodo, it would be best you set it up with no alerts (http://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcom...-t44371.0.html).

One last thing, you may want to implement a disallowed-by-default software restriction policy, or use sandboxie.

Don't forget about disk images! (or some other effective form of backup).
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Im going to make a backup partition that she cant touch, to keep the computer safe. i want to set it up with minimal intrusions so no software like comodo notifies her so she dont no she actually being protected.

but i want to keep her away from certain web pages not all of them. She 12 so i can guarantee she'l try to download music. and i want to keep her away from illegal download sites. Plus there's online games. And they come with all the Flash attacks so flash blocker is being added to firefox.

once i install everything i think she needs (Media player video player ect) i will make the partition backup.. The disalowed by default is a good idea.

I dont think she'l do a lot of installing new software.
Il install sandboxie and change the internet icon with it so she can only use sandboxie unless she goes through the C:\program Files to find it but i doubt that... I'l change the sandboxie icon to the firefox icon so she wont realize!

I would have to keep sandboxie to allow downloads to go to the real partition so she can keep what she has downloaded. Which will probably be youtube videos.
That why im partitioning Drives for Temp files and internet file. another partition for My Documents and downloads. Try and keep the C drive off limits. Thats why i originally asked if there was a way to hide the C:\ drive from My computer. But i guess limited access is just as good

thank for the help
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Old 05. Dec 2009, 04:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I was goning to install comodo with comodo dns but Open DNS seems to be the better choice for her...
I thought you meant CIS, but I guess it's just the DNS after all.

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