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Old 25. Nov 2009, 05:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There is a free tool called SpeedyFox that's designed to give FF a boost. It's here
I highly recommend SpeedyFox. I don't know if it will impact download speeds, but it certainly appears to help with startup and browsing.
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Old 25. Nov 2009, 11:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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To deya and kendall: I have tried SpeedyFox before without any impact on the broadband speed test, and I repeated it again on the clean install with the same result.

To deya: I have never tried Seamonkey, so I started to download the installation file (2.0, Swedish version). However, my firewall (ZoneAlarm Pro) after a heuristic scan warned: "ZoneAlarm Browser Security security scan has found this file malicious. This file is "zombie" software that silently terminates itself each time itīs run, causing no immediate harm to arouse the suspicion of antivirus software. However, when certain conditions on your PC arise, or when it receives instructions from a remote hacker, it can execute malicious commands." Hence I deleted the file - will try the English version tomorrow.
Thanks for your suggestions, they are very much appreciated.

PS. I have had a similar problem with K-Meleon, although only half as much speed deterioration as FF. I donīt use it anymore.

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Old 26. Nov 2009, 07:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have continued by downloading SeaMonkey (English version), with no objection from ZoneAlarm (which I bought earlier this year, because I became tired of Comodoīs frequent warnings which I often didnīt know how to deal with). Installed and took the speed test. Result: 9.8 Mbit/sec. I then decided to use Returnilīs session lock and disable ZoneAlarm. A new speed test gave 17.2, i.e. much better, but not as good as IE8, Opera and Chrome, all of which got results in the interval 23-24. I downloaded and installed FF (Swedish version), took the speed test, with the result 17.5. Obviously, ZoneAlarm and FF (and SeaMonkey and K-Meleon) do not go well together (I had similar problems with Comodo). I have now disabled Returnilīs session lock and am back to my normal state. I may have to rethink my setup, maybe make some more studies. Thanks for now.
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Old 26. Nov 2009, 08:42 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Exactly how are you taking the speed test? Can you share details about that?

What are the results if you turn off the firewall totally?
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Old 26. Nov 2009, 09:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Exactly how are you taking the speed test? Can you share details about that?

What are the results if you turn off the firewall totally?
I can not answer your first two questions immediately, I am using a Swedish test site that contacts my computer and takes the measurements by sending and receiving "phony data" - I will try to translate what the site says (I am not a computer man, just an ordinary user) and come back.

Concerning your last question, I am not quite sure what you mean by turning off the firewall totally. In the study above, I used "Shutdown ZoneAlarm Pro". Do you mean something else, e.g. uninstalling the firewall?

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Old 26. Nov 2009, 10:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Concerning your last question, I am not quite sure what you mean by turning off the firewall totally. In the study above, I used "Shutdown ZoneAlarm Pro". Do you mean something else, e.g. uninstalling the firewall?
OK, will wait for the answer to first question.

No, I did not mean uninstalling the firewall... just disabling it or exiting it for a while. I think "Shutdown ZoneAlarm Pro" should have done that.

What about the tests without the firewall, and Returnil both? Means... just running the browser without using the mentioned softwares.

I am still not convinced that the browser will be responsible for the low speed. Might be something somewhere else. Or, maybe I am wrong.

Take these two tests too, and see if your results are different.

http://www.numion.com/YourSpeed3/index.html

http://www.speedtest.net/
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Here is an effort to translate from Swedish to English by an old man with very limited computer vocabulary in Swedish as well as in English:

The measurement device is a so called flash applet which is loaded when the user arrives at the site for taking measurements. When the user presses the "Start measurement" button, the following takes place:

1. A preliminary measurement is taken in order to create a crude estimate of the userīs bandwidth. It is used to determine the size of the data set to be sent and received in the tests below.

2. Based upon an estimate of the userīs geographical position, the nearest measurement server is chosen.

3. 10 http requests are sent to the nearest measurement server and an average response time is calculated.

4. Simultaneously, two image files are collected from the measurement server. The size of the image files is chosen on the basis of the preliminary measurement. The time for the transfer is used to calculate the userīs “down-link bandwidth (?)”, the bandwidth with which the user can receive data.

5. Random data is sent via "http-post (?)" to the measurement server (two parallell sessions). The measurement determines the size of the data set to be sent. The time for the transfer is used to calculate the user's “up-link bandwidth (?)", the bandwidth with which the user can send data.

The results of the measurement are finally presented to the user.

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OK, will wait for the answer to first question.

No, I did not mean uninstalling the firewall... just disabling it or exiting it for a while. I think "Shutdown ZoneAlarm Pro" should have done that.

What about the tests without the firewall, and Returnil both? Means... just running the browser without using the mentioned softwares.

I am still not convinced that the browser will be responsible for the low speed. Might be something somewhere else. Or, maybe I am wrong.

Take these two tests too, and see if your results are different.

http://www.numion.com/YourSpeed3/index.html

http://www.speedtest.net/
It feels too scary for me to simultaneously disable the firewall and Returnil. However, I will take your two proposed tests later after some sleep - it is now half an hour after midnight in Sweden. Before I leave this session a final question: Arenīt FF, SeaMonkey and K-Meleon built on the same, or very similar, basic approach?
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@Bengt S: You can make a disk image, a system restore point, or some other form of backup if you want.
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Old 27. Nov 2009, 11:27 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Thanks for the posting the explanation. So, basically the test is testing the speed of your internet, using the browser.

I have posted two links for similar tests. You can take those tests, and see if there is any difference.

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It feels too scary for me to simultaneously disable the firewall and Returnil.
You should not get too scared like this. Without Returnil, and a firewall, you can stay uninfected if you follow safe web practices. Unless you visit a malicious site, or a site with malicious code, or download softwares from unknown sites, or download unknown malicious softwares... you can stay uninfected. That's why stress is given on safe surfing practices.

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Arenīt FF, SeaMonkey and K-Meleon built on the same, or very similar, basic approach?
Yes, all three are somewhat similar. All three use the Gecko engine. I think SeaMonkey is based on Firefox. K-Meleon uses Gecko engine, but otherwise its development is different from Firefox. One user had posted a very useful and interesting thread about this. You can read it here :

http://www.techsupportalert.com/free...d-history.html

You can take the tests suggested, and also by disabling firewall and Returnil, and see if you get any difference. If still there is not much difference... then maybe it has something to do with the underlying javascript engine on which the browsers run. Its just a speculation on my part, as I frankly don't have much knowledge about this.
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