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Old 30. Mar 2016, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Windows 10 slower on SSD than Windows 7

After umpteen times at trying Windows 10 32 and 64bit...

Windows 7 32bit with 8G on SSD (laptop) - which can only really use 4G of RAM max. boots up in 30 sec. average while either Windows 10 32 or 64bit fresh installed with same software and updated drivers boots up in 1 min. +

In fact, only difference is that on Windows 7 - 360 Total Security is default AV which should be more resource consuming than Windows 10 with its default, right?
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Old 30. Mar 2016, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wouldn't judge an OS simply by how slow it boots up.

That said, my Windows 10 32-bit boots up in less than a minute. If it is taking longer for you, might be for some reason. But then again, can't compare as we have different hardware configuration, and other things.
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Old 30. Mar 2016, 07:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just wanna know what folks do with all the precious seconds they save by having stuff that is "faster" and "lighter".

For me, time saved is irrelevant. It's the quality of what I do with the time I have that is important.
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Old 30. Mar 2016, 07:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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@Anupam - i presume you have it on an SSD.

@MC - always philosophical!
It's true, i can always clip my finger nails while i wait it to boot.

Fact is, i kind of expect Windows 10 to be more performing since, Microsoft should now have learned from past experience how to put out something that is more perfect than before right?

There's also one other thing i've noticed.
The cooling fan works less often on Windows 7 than Windows 10.
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Old 30. Mar 2016, 11:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Windows boot times for Windows 7 and 10 or for 32-bit and 64-bit Windows work quite differently.

Read about Windows 7 startup to see the different measures of startup time. Which one are you using? If you want to look in more detail then there are many articles on how to record startup logs.

I don't have time to go into detail but if you want to do a fair comparison and eliminate the many differences comparison then you need to change/check a lot of settings/features/applications including the following:
  • The default startup programs are different between Windows 7 and 10, and between 32-bit and 64-bit.
  • Windows 10 shutdown method has more than one option that affects startup time, the default usually makes startup faster because it is a form of hibernation. In general, if Windows 10 is taking longer to boot than Windows 7 then you probably have a problem - quite probably a driver problem.
  • 64-bit Windows has to load the WOW64 subsystem for 32-bit emulation. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...or=-2147217396
  • 64-bit Windows loads more memory so it has a higher startup load
  • Windows 10 makes more intensive use of RAM which requires more processing.
  • The Windows default AV is different for Windows 7 than Windows 10. Also 360TS possibly uses less resources than the Windows default.
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Old 31. Mar 2016, 12:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you Remah.

Drivers were up to date on both Win 7 and 10.
But the last part of your intervention is likely most accurate (64bit loads more memory with higher start up load on Win 10 which also uses more intensively the available RAM - which would likely explain the cpu fan being used a lot more frequently; don't suppose there's a way to go around that?).

Maybe i'll have to double-check to see if 360TS behaves better on 10 64bit...
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Old 31. Mar 2016, 05:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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No, I have a regular hard drive. Probably should have mentioned it before.

Remah gave a better reply than me, with sufficient details, and he correctly mentioned something which I didn't think of, that regarding startup Windows 7 and Windows 10 are way different, and a lot more processes might be starting up in Windows 10, because of extra processes and services related to Windows apps, and other things.

I use Avast as my antivirus, and it is pretty light on resources. I also manage my startup entries to keep up load to a minimum.

I should mention that I keep hibernate turned off, and even then my PC boots up quite nicely.

Regarding Windows 8 and 10, I have found them to be more streamlined than Windows 7, which is already quite a great Windows version. I also found Windows 8 and 10 to be as light as Windows 7, or probably lighter. I use only 32-bit OS though. I have no intention to venture to 64-bit OS, unless I am forced to.
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I use only 32-bit OS though. I have no intention to venture to 64-bit OS, unless I am forced to.
I dislike being forced to use 32-bit applications all the time. I love the smoothness of 64-bit Windows when there are a lot of applications loaded and more than 4GB RAM.

So how long will the transition from 32-bit to 64-bit systems take?
We're well past ten years with no end in sight. :-(
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Old 31. Mar 2016, 11:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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WinPatrol is pretty good at managing start up programs but you are likely also talking about system ones which i am less familiar with.

Never use hybernate.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe that Windows system search is more resource intensive on 10 than 7.

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Don't use system search - use "everything".
It is not in the same century as far as time is concerned.
https://www.voidtools.com/
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