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Old 10. Jan 2015, 07:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Melita, I am also very poor at networking, and so I have no idea. Sorry. Someone else might be able to help, so please wait for replies .
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Old 10. Jan 2015, 09:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Melita, I am also very poor at networking, and so I have no idea. Sorry. Someone else might be able to help, so please wait for replies .
No worries. I am sure there will be an answer soon.

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Old 10. Jan 2015, 10:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You can do it without using Teamviewer, but it is far easier to use something like that.
I actually use VNC which is what teamviewer is based on.
Microsoft do have a built in remote viewer in Windows, but it is quite naive.
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Old 11. Jan 2015, 02:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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You can do it without using Teamviewer, but it is far easier to use something like that.
I actually use VNC which is what teamviewer is based on.
Microsoft do have a built in remote viewer in Windows, but it is quite naive.
Thank you for your response. It is not that I don't like to use TeamViewer. I am quite happy with it. It is in my nature to explore things and I am trying to see what I can do with a crossover cable.

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Old 11. Jan 2015, 06:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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What you are trying to accomplish is not for the light-hearted, but I tip my hat to you for being willing to try. The process for LAN networking always seems quite straight forward when you read about it, but then when you actually try it there are always these little "gotchas"

One thing to note, is that Microsoft made some big changes to networking from XP to 7 in an attempt to make the process easier. That is why networking 7 to 7 is generally simpler. In 7 the "Homegroup"or "Home Network" was introduced. (maybe it was Vista I don't remember for sure) But "Homegroup" won't work with XP. You need to set up the older type "Workgroup" to share files between XP and 7. These are the terms you will likely want to google if you want to find some step by step guides and tutorials. https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1...+7+&gws_rd=ssl
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Old 17. Jan 2015, 06:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I never leave a thread incomplete and I am sorry for the delay due to other urgent matters. Just got around to the finish of this ambitious project.
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Your best bet for this project would be to either search for this on internet, and read the various guides/forums, or, post on a network specific forum.

Here is one thread I found, which might be useful. It has a few links.

http://www.sevenforums.com/network-s...ver-cable.html

I will suggest a simple solution. Get an external hard drive, if you can afford it.

Copying/moving stuff to external hard drive will be much faster, from PC to drive, or drive to PC, than through network. It will be a two step process though.

Also, external drive can act as backup too, where you can keep copies of your important files.
Thank you Anupam for this link. I changed the computer IPs and subnet mask, the way it is explained there and it was a success! I will go in for a external hard drive soon. XP was able to connect to Win 7, but it came up with the same problems as with my earlier ‘workgroup’ attempt. See here.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/free...computers.html


Only ‘Public documents’ are accessible. Also, Win 7 asked for a ‘Network password’ to connect to XP. I have never created a network password anywhere! I may have been able to sort this out by creating a network password. I did some tweaking here and there and got the impression that I could iron out much of the problems, but it was obvious that it would be very time consuming. Further more, using the crossover cable made no difference to the way the two computers connected, from the way they connected with the ‘workgroup’ method. The display, behavior and the glitches in everything was identical. It seemed more than unlikely that I would be able to move files, folders and media back and forth at will, like I am able to do with TeamViewer, which really is what I am after.

So I dropped the project to stick with Teamviewer.

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What you are trying to accomplish is not for the light-hearted, but I tip my hat to you for being willing to try. The process for LAN networking always seems quite straight forward when you read about it, but then when you actually try it there are always these little "gotchas"

One thing to note, is that Microsoft made some big changes to networking from XP to 7 in an attempt to make the process easier. That is why networking 7 to 7 is generally simpler. In 7 the "Homegroup"or "Home Network" was introduced. (maybe it was Vista I don't remember for sure) But "Homegroup" won't work with XP. You need to set up the older type "Workgroup" to share files between XP and 7. These are the terms you will likely want to google if you want to find some step by step guides and tutorials. https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1...+7+&gws_rd=ssl
Many thanks for the kind words, helpful information and the link. Usually I don't give up this easily, But I realize the wisdom of what you say "The process for LAN networking always seems quite straight forward when you read about it, but then when you actually try it there are always these little "gotchas""

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Old 17. Jan 2015, 06:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well, you gave it your best shot. So, no need to feel defeated. Unfortunate that it did not work out. It would have been a lot easier if the OS were the same, but it's Windows 7 and XP, and because of the changes in both OS regarding networking, you encountered the issues. Atleast you know what to do, if you try this around some time, with same OS.

It's wise not to waste much time on it, specially when there are easier ways of doing it.
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Well, you gave it your best shot. So, no need to feel defeated. Unfortunate that it did not work out. It would have been a lot easier if the OS were the same, but it's Windows 7 and XP, and because of the changes in both OS regarding networking, you encountered the issues. Atleast you know what to do, if you try this around some time, with same OS.

It's wise not to waste much time on it, specially when there are easier ways of doing it.
Thank you for the encouraging words

TeamViewer is straight forward and easy. It gives complete freedom of access to everything in a few short steps. I am going to make partitions in the hard drives of the two computers and see if I can save disk images directly from one computer to the other, using TeamViewer. That is going to my next experiment!

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So that I get longer time to transfer files, I now use the free version of DropBox instead of TeamViewer. I have got shared folders with two other people plus my laptop and I can now transfer 3.2 gb virtually immediately to/from my desktop PC.
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So that I get longer time to transfer files, I now use the free version of DropBox instead of TeamViewer. I have got shared folders with two other people plus my laptop and I can now transfer 3.2 gb virtually immediately to/from my desktop PC.
Thank you for stepping in to help.

My work is only between my two computers right in front of me, and it would be a rare occurrence if I ever connect to another's computer remotely. File sharing with others is also not a requirement. I mostly use the LAN connection of Teamviewer for my own activities, and as such, it is more than adequate for me.

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