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Old 24. Jul 2009, 01:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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One other suggestion to consider before wiping anything might be Linux.
Ubuntu (or the 'K' desktop version) might not be everyone's cup of tea but you can run it from a live CD without removing Windows to see what you think. Ubuntu or OpenSUSE would be ideal for a laptop, and there are other good distros too - all free. It depends on how you want to use the laptop as to how good a solution Linux might be. Network setup for Internet connection is not automatic like Windows but your local PC guy will set up Ubuntu in just a few minutes for you. It would be well worth a look before making a final decision. The Gnome desktop versions will take less out of your laptop than the KDE alternatives but with a new laptop this shouldn't be an issue.
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Old 24. Jul 2009, 01:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks, for the linux suggestion.

The trouble is I made a big mistake when I bought this laptop, I just assumed that you can install XP on any laptop, as it is happening everywhere.

All my work software is for XP, some of it is old and probably won't work on Vista. The same thing is bound to happen with linux.

So as the other person suggested, it may be better to have XP on one partition, to cover all options, then if XP does not work fully I have not wrecked the laptop. I got it cheap and don't have a recovery CD, it was an open-box deal.

Then I will look out to see if there are driver upgrades for Windows7 and go with that, it seems to be a better option than Vista, which to me is very slow and a completely new operating system that has no relation to XP. In any case it seems sensible to look at Windows 7 now, everyone is saying that Vista will be buried quickly.
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Old 25. Jul 2009, 03:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If you take the time to get familiar with Vista you will find that Windows 7 is very similar and the changeover will be pretty easy.

If you want to try Windows 7 in advance of it's release I believe the RC version is still available here - http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx until August 20th 2009 (it will last until March 1st 2010 when it automatically becomes crippled).
It has most necessary drivers out of the box (especially if your components are Vista compatable).
It's very stable and less resource hungry than Vista.

This may be a viable option for you if you want to go down the dual boot road, although of course you would probably still need XP installed for your required older apps (triple boot even!)
I've found http://www.sevenforums.com/ a great source of info.
EasyBCD http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1 may also come in handy.

Obviously multi boot systems are not for everyone but it may be something to consider depending on your needs and level of experience. Would certainly provide an interesting challenge!

(PS. A backup image of your system is vitally important before attempting this, especially as you have no Vista recovery disk.)

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Old 25. Jul 2009, 07:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yes, I might try W7 in a partition. This would be a step forward instead of a step back. And XP in another partition, for the old software etc.

If both of those worked OK I'd think about wiping Vista at that stage. I think it likely that W7 drivers will become available.
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Old 26. Jul 2009, 06:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Thank you for this useful info. I will work through it.

However there does not seem to be any reference to wiping the disk, only adding XP into an additional partition, which I don't want to do. I want to remove all the rubbish that is on the disk, from the dealer.

Anyway I will try this and see what happens, then report back.
There's a program called PC Decrapifier that will uninstall most of the rubbish from new computers. I've used it a few times. You can find it by running a search for the name.
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Old 26. Jul 2009, 06:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yes, I might try W7 in a partition. This would be a step forward instead of a step back. And XP in another partition, for the old software etc.
Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate Editions include a "Windows XP Mode" feature which allows you to run your incompatable XP programs from within a virtual machine.
The Windows 7 RC is the Ultimate version so you should have access to try it out (I haven't looked at this closely myself yet though).
Certainly you would have the potential option to use all your XP software in future if you choose to go for Win 7 Pro when it's out.
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Old 27. Jul 2009, 04:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Sope, that looks interesting. At last a sensible move by MS huh?

I will definitely try W7 soon.
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Old 27. Jul 2009, 08:16 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Sope, that looks interesting. At last a sensible move by MS huh?

I will definitely try W7 soon.
Yep, certainly a clever step to encourage those who are still running XP to finally upgrade.

The only obvious negatives regarding Windows XP Mode that I can see, are -
1) only included in the more expensive versions of Windows 7 (Pro and Ultimate)
2) You need suitable hardware that's capable of running a virtual machine.

Saying that, my preference will be to go for a new system running Windows 7 Premium and probably get a KVM switch to link up to my current WinXP system.

I find Windows 7 RC works surprizingly well on my current system (P4 2.8GHz ; 1GB RAM ; GeForce 6200) and it gives me the chance to get to know it in advance of getting my new PC .
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What is a minimum spec for running a virtual machine please?
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Old 28. Jul 2009, 02:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What is a minimum spec for running a virtual machine please?
Have a look at these two webpages :-

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir...uirements.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir...gure-bios.aspx

Personally I don't have any experience with virtual machines (my PC gets a "no" from the Intel Processor Identification Utility ) but I'm sure there are plenty on this forum who do, and who could offer some more advice.
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