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Old 13. Dec 2014, 12:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am using Windows 7 and XP. I am thinking of imaging the hard drive of WIN 7, in the hard drive of XP, using an Ethernet cross over cable. Should I first make a separate partition in XP and make the image in that partition?

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If you are talking about creating a special partition for the image, no need to do that. The image is a file, like any other ordinary file, and can be stored in any normal partition along with other files.

Do you have any flash drives, or an external drive? If yes, make use of that for storing or transferring the image file. I don't know how fast is the transfer of file over the LAN with crossover cable, but I suppose, that it will take quite long for files of large size, and image file can be of a large size, depending on what size of disk you image, or how much you image.

So, an external hard drive is a better option of storing/transferring files from one computer to other.
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I am thinking of imaging the hard drive of WIN 7, in the hard drive of XP, using an Ethernet cross over cable.
So have you now been successful in setting up a network connection between the two PC's via ethernet?

As Anupam says, by far the easiest and most reliable way to save and store backup images of your PC's would be to use a portable external HDD, or at a push, a large USB stick.
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I don't know how fast is the transfer of file over the LAN with crossover cable, but I suppose, that it will take quite long for files of large size, and image file can be of a large size, depending on what size of disk you image, or how much you image.
What would you think if I use Cat5 or 6 crossover, all copper cable. I have been reading up a little on their speeds. I will be imaging only the operating system as protection against Hard disk failure. I back up files on a DVD regularly.

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So have you now been successful in setting up a network connection between the two PC's via ethernet?

As Anupam says, by far the easiest and most reliable way to save and store backup images of your PC's would be to use a portable external HDD, or at a push, a large USB stick.
I have got TeamViewer but I like to play with gadgets. Hence, the idea of getting a crossover cable to pay with!

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I have no idea about the speed of transfer by cross over cable. You can test it yourself by transferring a large file like a movie, or any large file, and see what speed you get, or how much time it takes.

In any case, image of your system drive is going to be big enough.
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I have got TeamViewer but I like to play with gadgets. Hence, the idea of getting a crossover cable to pay with!
If I understand correctly, if you use a crossover cable, it won't simply provide a direct link between your PC's, you will still need to be able to successfully configure a network connection between your XP and Win7 operating systems, something I know you had problems with previously, hence the need for you to resort to using Teamviewer.

I wish you good luck with it though, and please let us know how it turns out.
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If I understand correctly, if you use a crossover cable, it won't simply provide a direct link between your PC's, you will still need to be able to successfully configure a network connection between your XP and Win7 operating systems, something I know you had problems with previously, hence the need for you to resort to using Teamviewer.

I wish you good luck with it though, and please let us know how it turns out.
I always collect as much information and guidance as possible, before I do anything that I am not familiar with, so that I don't end up messing up everything. I have learned a great deal and avoided many pitfalls because of the help I always get in this forum. The least I can do is to post the results here and I certainly will.

TeamViewer is a complete success (network connection between the 2 computers), but creating the 'workgroup' was a failure - I could see Winows 7 In XP but not vice versa. Teamviewer gives unrestrited ccess (which Homegroup does not, even if I was successful)), bothways. So, I am better off without Homegroup.

A few more questions please; correct me if I am wrong.

1. If I create the disk image of WIN 7 in it's own HD, I can trasfer that to XP using Teamviewer.

2. I am also going to try this, using the Ethernet crossover cable. Using an externel HD could be even slower for this purpose because it uses a USB cable instead of a Crossover cable. Please see the attachment. This is some information I pickedup on Ebay. I don't understand it fully but from the lottle I do, some of them looks pretty fast to me. Here is the link to the full page:

http://www.ebay.com/gds/What-Is-Ethe...8626655/g.html
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A few more questions please; correct me if I am wrong.

1. If I create the disk image of WIN 7 in it's own HD, I can trasfer that to XP using Teamviewer.

2. I am also going to try this, using the Ethernet crossover cable. Using an externel HD could be even slower for this purpose because it uses a USB cable instead of a Crossover cable. Please see the attachment. This is some information I pickedup on Ebay. I don't understand it fully but from the lottle I do, some of them looks pretty fast to me. Here is the link to the full page:

http://http://www.ebay.com/gds/What-...8626655/g.html
A1. Your Win7 HDD image is likely to be tens of GB in size, for example my C: drive is over 60GB not including personal documents etc. ...I do have a lot of programs etc. installed though!
I doubt very much if Teamviewer will be able to reliably transfer such a large file.

A2. Ethernet transfer speed will be dependent on the speed of the ethernet ports on your PC's, whichever is slowest.
As for USB, again speed depends on which version/s you have.
I suspect that your XP machine will have the slower hardware so that will be the limiting factor.
Either way, disk imaging can be a slow process however you choose to do it.

Here is a very comprehensive list where you can compare the various device bit rates that are available....lots!!
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Thank you. The list in Wiki is alright. I got a headache in fact!

I am going to order an Ethernet cable from Ebay. I will get back here with the results.

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