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Old 18. Oct 2014, 06:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am using a Lenovo G500 with Windows 8.1 Update. Ever since I got this computer (about a year ago) I've never got an "Improper Shutdown" message even though I've experienced a few power failures while using it.

It's a laptop but I mainly use it with the battery out and connect via the power adapter.

After a power failure, when I reboot the machine it just starts normally. When I check the Reliability Monitor I can see an event is logged for the improper shutdown but I never get a screen about it on restart.

Other than this oddity the machine is working perfectly.

Has anyone experienced this? Suggestions?
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Old 18. Oct 2014, 07:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have experienced the same. My computer has shut down improperly only rarely, but whenever it has, I noticed that you do not get the improper shut down message you used to get when using XP. Instead, the computer just boots normally.

I guess this feature has been removed from Windows 8?

It was a useful one, and often it also showed whether running checkdisk was required or not.

I was not aware of Reliability Monitor... heard about it for first time .. thanks for posting about it. Will be good to use it.

Event Log used to be much simpler to see and understand in XP... it's complicated in Windows 8.
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Old 18. Oct 2014, 08:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It still runs as required but you don't get the message allowing you to cancel it.
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Old 18. Oct 2014, 11:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank you both for your answers.

Remah, if I understand you and interprete the article correctly, you are saying that in Windows 8 (and 8.1) I will no longer get the choice to run CHKDSK. Furthermore, I will no longer get a dialog box with the warning, and that Windows will just do its thing without any input from me?

Anupam, I remember I use to get the dialog about improper shutdown in Windows 7. Although the computer is working fine I'm just concerned that something may be wrong.

As for Event Viewer, I don't use it - I find it more confusing than helpful. For that matter, I hardly ever even look at Reliability Monitor but at least when I do (like now) I find it more simple and understandable.

Strangely enough, Reliability Monitor can't be found among the Administrative Tools in Control Panel. To get to it go to Control Panel→System and Security→Action Center. Click on Maintenance to expand it then click on View reliability history.





The Reliability Monitor will open and look like this...


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Thank you both for your answers.

Remah, if I understand you and interprete the article correctly, you are saying that in Windows 8 (and 8.1) I will no longer get the choice to run CHKDSK. Furthermore, I will no longer get a dialog box with the warning, and that Windows will just do its thing without any input from me?
That's right. They've removed the option. I still see a message when chkdsk is run but I only notice it if I watch startup.
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Old 19. Oct 2014, 01:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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CHKDSK has been redesigned in Windows 8. Windows has a self-healing process that is supposed to to do many of the previous functions of CHKDSK. There is talk that CHKDSK will disappear. Some information at this link. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...lth-model.aspx
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Old 19. Oct 2014, 01:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks Remah for that link... makes things clear.

Yes Joe, that was the same concern with me... that although the computer was running without problems, I was afraid of any errors due to the improper shutdown.

If checkdisk is required to run, and I do not have the option to disregard it, that's fine with me, because I think if it's required to run, then it should be run.

Thanks for the link Vic, haven't read it in full yet, too long and seems technical for me .. might read later. But it does explain things a bit.

I have an external drive, and when I plugged it in Windows 8, an automatic message was shown that the drive needed to be scanned for inconsistencies. And the message was indeed correct, because I had interfered with the transfer of a file when the drive was connected to my laptop. So, I guess the checkdisk checking for both internal and external drives is working fine.

That's fine with me.

Maybe a changelog should be released with each Windows version as to tell the changes since the last versions, atleast the major ones like in Windows 8.. like this one about checkdisk, or the safe mode not being easily available, etc.

For reliability monitor, after reading the post here, I did search for it, and learned about it. Thanks for the post anyways, Joe.
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Thanks for the link Vic. Like Anupam, I find it long and technical too but I skimmed through it and got the gist.
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