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Old 20. Nov 2013, 12:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys: i opened this Dell 4500 PC and i see 2 hdds 80gb Maxtor and 10Gb Seagate,they're connected with same tape, i think the OPS is in the 80Gb HDDthe 10GB HDD has some type of recovery is winxp?

frank@frank ~ $ fdisk
Usage:
fdisk [options] <disk> change partition table
fdisk [options] -l <disk> list partition table(s)
fdisk -s <partition> give partition size(s) in blocks

Options:
-b <size> sector size (512, 1024, 2048 or 4096)
-c[=<mode>] compatible mode: 'dos' or 'nondos' (default)
-h print this help text
-u[=<unit>] display units: 'cylinders' or 'sectors' (default)
-v print program version
-C <number> specify the number of cylinders
-H <number> specify the number of heads
-S <number> specify the number of sectors per track

frank@frank ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 2
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
stepping : 4
microcode : 0xb
cpu MHz : 1993.556
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm up pebs bts
bogomips : 3987.11
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 128
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:
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Old 20. Nov 2013, 02:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The hard disk drives will be PATA (the parallel ancestor of SATA which is serial) using the ATA connector tape. They are also called IDE because the precursor to, and first version of, ATA/ATAPI was IDE.

I can't read any info on the drive contents so there is no way for me to tell what is on the 10GB drive.
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The hard disk drives will be PATA (the parallel ancestor of SATA which is serial) using the ATA connector tape. They are also called IDE because the precursor to, and first version of, ATA/ATAPI was IDE.

I can't read any info on the drive contents so there is no way for me to tell what is on the 10GB drive.
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Yes, they're Windows files and folders: _restore*, system volume information, and recycler. Almost certainly XP given the Dell Dimension 4500 came out 2002.
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I don't get it, what's the question?
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Yes, they're Windows files and folders: _restore*, system volume information, and recycler. Almost certainly XP given the Dell Dimension 4500 came out 2002.
Thanks Remah< so i can just desconnect the 10 gb and just leave the 80gb by itself?
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Thanks Remah< so i can just desconnect the 10 gb and just leave the 80gb by itself?
That is a question.

It will probably work because I assume that the 80GB drive is the master and the 10GB is a slave. However, even if the 80GB drive is the master it should be on the last adapter of the cable to reduce electrical interference due to not being terminated properly.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralle...ces_on_a_cable for more info on this.

In summary:
  • If the drive jumpers are set to cable select then the 80GB drive will need to be attached to the end of the cable.
  • If the drive jumpers are set to master and slave then ensure that the master is the 80GB drive.
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That is a question.

It will probably work because I assume that the 80GB drive is the master and the 10GB is a slave. However, even if the 80GB drive is the master it should be on the last adapter of the cable to reduce electrical interference due to not being terminated properly.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralle...ces_on_a_cable for more info on this.

In summary:
  • If the drive jumpers are set to cable select then the 80GB drive will need to be attached to the end of the cable.
  • If the drive jumpers are set to master and slave then ensure that the master is the 80GB drive.


Thanks Remah; i desconnected the 10gb hdd and changed the jumper from the second pins to the first pins closest to the tape connector and it booted right up smoothly,it one less hardware to confuse the cpu, like that <Grub rescue> trouble i had in Xubuntu,i bet you the 2 hdd toghether were the cause of the grub thing!

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< even if the 80GB drive is the master it should be on the last adapter of the cable to reduce electrical interference due to not being terminated properly>

that i did not do, i put in the first, you think i should do it? maybe i can put a single connector with just 2 ends if i can foind one in my scrap, thanks.



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< even if the 80GB drive is the master it should be on the last adapter of the cable to reduce electrical interference due to not being terminated properly>

that i did not do, i put in the first, you think i should do it? maybe i can put a single connector with just 2 ends if i can foind one in my scrap, thanks.
Signals on the cable will travel up to the end of the cable then reflect back down it. The result is like other electrical interference and generally reduces the data transfer speed of the drive. If you're not using it for much then you're not likely to notice.
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