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Old 01. Mar 2014, 05:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I never liked games but I was nicknamed Pacman. That should tell you something about my personality.
You eat people for lunch??!!!
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Old 01. Mar 2014, 07:07 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You eat people for lunch??!!!
I think it had to do with my hunger for knowledge and my attitude to "not leave any stone unturned", regardless of what I was doing. That was in college, I kind of mellowed down a little but I am still pretty much like that, I think. Never take no for an answer kind of attitude, thats me Kendall. If I fail in something 7 out 10 times, I don't see that as failing and actually think that succeeding three times out 10 is winning, like major league baseball players, they make a hit 3 out of 10 times in a 20 year career, they ll go to the hall of fame. Thats Pacman.

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I am sure I am in the minority. I am just not into computer games, pinballs or things like that. Never have not even when I was in college and games like Pacman were coming out and were becoming popular. I never liked games but I was nicknamed Pacman. That should tell you something about my personality.

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Wow, just when I thought it's just MC and Gizmo who doesn't play Games!

I couldn't imagine life without computer games.
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I couldn't imagine life without computer games.
Give up the games and you might discover you have one (life that is)
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Old 04. Mar 2014, 10:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Remah and Bo,

Finally.

I am attaching the Decrap listing, as indicated earlier.

A few things:

1. I have an alternative list of what is installed via the control panel if that is a better list to view.

2. This Lenovo has a D drive in addition to the C drive, with the following installed: McAfee (there is also one listed on the C drive, so I have no idea why or what), Nitro PDF, ReadyComm, VeriFace and YouCam, the last 3 are Lenovo applications.

I know generally what those 3 do, but if I remove them, how does that screw up anything?

As an example, I have ooVoo on here, which is like Skype, but does YouCam do the same thing as ooVoo? ReadyComm is also some Web-X type platform, as well.

There are also drivers in this D drive as well. They seem to be the drivers needed for the entire laptop, if I understand what they are, from USB3, audio, chip set, WLAN, and etc. these I will not touch.

Some of this stuff I can't find on-line, or if I do, there are so many conflicting answers such as MSVCRT_amd64. I saw that's an Apple utility, a Microsoft utility, Intel, and etc.

Any help you can give me is very welcomed...

Thanks.



BTW, I don't use anything Microsoft related, such as Hotmail, Live Essentials, and etc.; I don't/won't use SugarSync, all this stuff is just bloat. I won't use McAfee, I don't need to upgrade to Office 2010/2013, if I need to, I do it internally. No games, don't care.

As indicated, I'll install MSE, Winpatrol, CryptoPrevent, other scanners like MBAM, and Sandboxie. I use Firefox and Thunderbird for personal email, Outlook for work.

I have a 2 terabyte external drive with my files, don't use a cloud, so don't need any of that.

Again, thanks so much for the assist.
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I had a look through the list and noted what I think you can disable or uninstall but you need to confirm the identification of each item before removing it. The letter at the start of each line indicates:
Y=keep it
N=not needed so can disable or uninstall
?=it depends upon whether you want it, use it or identify precisely what it is

Most of it appears to be from the original install so there is probably little benefit in recovering the original install before removing all the crap and reinstalling Office.

I would start with the main applications that you don't want (e.g. ooVoo, YouCam, Chrome) before looking at startup/background services and device-specific software.

After you uninstall a batch then restart your system. This creates system restore points and, if a problem develops, makes it is easier to identify where a problem occurs.
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Old 05. Mar 2014, 02:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Remah,

You rock...

Thanks so much.
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Old 05. Mar 2014, 09:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I have a Lenovo too. IMHO, I don't think you should interfere with the D drive. I don't like bloatware either but I'm careful not to get carried away and delete things I don't know about. In this case, I don't know what the D drive is for so I leave well alone.

@Remah, I had a glance at your amended text document and I'm confused. For example, you say 'Yes' to keep McAfee when windyctyprog says he doesn't want to keep it. You also say "Google Toolbar is not needed as you use Firefox" yet you say 'Yes' to keep it. It's as though you've mixed up the Y's with the N's. These are only 2 examples but there may be more.

windyctyprog, in an earlier post sicknero advise you to make a backup. I think that's very good and sound advice - you should always have a way back.

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Old 05. Mar 2014, 10:13 PM   #29 (permalink)
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OOOOOPPPPPS!!!!!!

Joe, you are right. I went through the list in two sessions and inverted the selections in the second group and then used that as the incorrect key.

As a result my key is the wrong way as it relates to the second half of items. 'Y' should relate to deleting items not keeping them.
N=don't delete, keep it
Y=not needed so can disable or uninstall
?=it depends upon whether you want it, use it or identify precisely what it is

The corrected list is attached.

Very sorry
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Old 06. Mar 2014, 12:46 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I have a Lenovo too. IMHO, I don't think you should interfere with the D drive. I don't like bloatware either but I'm careful not to get carried away and delete things I don't know about. In this case, I don't know what the D drive is for so I leave well alone.

windyctyprog, in an earlier post sicknero advise you to make a backup. I think that's very good and sound advice - you should always have a way back.
I appreciate your concern, so thanks...

I already made the backup after I downloaded all the updates for both Windows and Office.

As for the D Drive, I am not going to touch the drivers, I think they are all system drivers.

The 4 applications in a separate folder are crap, as far as I can tell through my research - I think they are all trials.

ReadyComm is a Lenovo wireless and Ethernet manager - Windows already does that, why do I need a duplicate?

Do I really need facial recognition software?

NitroPDF, nope, have to pay for it, it is inferior to Sumatra.

Frankly, I should have wiped the drive and installed Win7 and Office, moved Firefox and Thunderbird over, and called it a day.

I never thought about it until it was too late.

Part of the problem is that the user manual is a big zero, completely useless.
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