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Old 08. Oct 2011, 03:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I wish to watch H.264 MP4 files and I have read that Media Player Classic is the best media player to view them so I went to the sourceforge.net website and downloaded the HC 32 bit installer. I was unsure whether I should also have installed the ZIP file and 7z files as well. (I am aware that a ZIP file is a compressed file, but there is no guidance on the website whether one is required to download all three files, or only the installer.) Do the ZIP and 7z files contain the same files as those in the installer, or do all three files have to be installed on my pc? If I do have install all three files where should I locate them? (When I downloaded the installer there was no guidance where I should store it, so I sent it to my Downloads Folder. I now find that there are a large number of Cabinet files located in the folder. Are they in the right place?)

After downloading the installer I received an error message saying I needed to install the Direct X End-User Runtime Web Installer before the Media Player Classic would function properly, so I also downloaded that from the Microsoft website. However, it has not enabled me to play MP4 files.

I have read the helpful guide by joe.bennett on installing Media Player Classic on this website and also the article on understanding codecs, but I am unclear on which codecs I require for Media Player Classic. (I already have Windows Media Player and VLC Media Player installed on my pc to listen and view standard audio and video files.)

My computer is a HP G60-217EM Notebook PC and my operating system is Vista Home Premium 32 bit with Service Pac 2 installed.

I apologise for the length of this message but I thought it would assist to give as much information as possible. I would appreciate any help, as I have very limited technical knowledge.
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Old 08. Oct 2011, 05:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi buddy. Its ok you give all details you can, so don't worry about. You can download the executable self-installer here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-...6.exe/download

Maybe you should install K-lite codec pack. It gives media players with no native support for h264 codec the capability to play it . You can download here:
http://www.codecguide.com/download_k...k_standard.htm

In setup of K-lite, just choose the desired code and click finish. All your media player can make use of this, so you'll have no problem.



Also, take a look http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/DXVASupport.html
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Old 08. Oct 2011, 05:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Kodika, welcome to the forum .

The installer is sufficient to install Media Player Classic on the computer.

The zip file contains the installer in zipped format, so that the size is a bit small to download. Same with 7-zip.

So, if you downloaded the installer, then its OK.

If you already have VLC installed on the system, then it should be able to play the mp4 files, even in H.264 format, without installing any codecs.

Did you try playing the files with VLC? If yes, did you face any problem?

I would advice installing any extra codec pack. VLC should be sufficient.
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Old 08. Oct 2011, 05:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you want, you can also try PotPlayer, which is also an excellent player for playing all kinds of media files. Please see this article, for reading more on it, and other media players.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...eplacement.htm

Also note the warning about installing extra codecs towards the end of article in Tips and Warnings.
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Old 09. Oct 2011, 04:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you both 4goTTen21 and Anupam for your helpful advice.

4goTTen21 - As I explained in my original post, I had already downloaded the installer from the sourceforge.net website. Thanks for the link to the K-lite codec pack. However, as I have very little technical knowledge, I am very wary of downloading codec pacs. (See the link provided by Anupam which warns against installing extra codecs, given that they are capable of producing software incompatibilies,system crashes and sometimes they don't let your new media player play your files properly.)

Anupam - I had not realised that my VLC player was capable of playing MP4 files in H.264 format, but I have now tried it and it works! Thanks for the tip.

As I am able to view MP4 videos on my VLC player, I am thinking I may uninstall Media Player Classic as it seems to be causing me more trouble than it is worth! I now find that everytime I try to play a video using Media Player Classic I get the following error message "Warning creating EVR Custom Renderer - The installed DirectX End-User Runtime is outdated. Please download and install the June 2010 release or newer in order for MPC-HC to function properly." This is despite me installing the latest version from the Microsoft website! I find that if I close the error message the video now plays. Do you know how I can stop this error message launching every time I try to play a video!

I have read your link about PotPlayer and I might give it a try. Does it come with all the necessary codecs pre-installed? Would I experience the same problems I am experiencing with Media Player Classic?

I would also appreciate any help in advising me whether I can either delete, or move the large number of cabinet files which the Directx Installer downloaded into my personal Downloads folder. From my research I have learnt that a cabinet file is a single file created to hold a number of compressed files, and that during installation of a program, the compressed files in a cabinet are decompressed and copied to an appropriate directory for the user. I have also read different opinions as to whether it is safe to delete the cabinet files once the installation of the software is complete. If I cannot delete them I would at least like to remove them to a different place on my pc's hard drive as I don't want them clogging up my personal downloads folder. How do I go about moving them, and where is the proper place to store cabinet files?
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Old 09. Oct 2011, 05:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Kodika, good to know that the files are able to play with VLC. VLC player comes with all the codecs necessary to play media files. Only sometimes, it might not be able to play some formats, but that's rare.

Yes, you may uninstall Media Player Classic now, since VLC works good. Media Player Classic is also a very good media player, but if its not working for you, then better uninstall it.

Well, its actually a warning, and not an error message that you are getting with MPC... so, if you close it, it still plays the file. Just uninstall MPC. You don't need it now.

Yes, PotPlayer is like VLC too, and comes with the necessary codecs, so you don't have to install any codec pack. However, I should tell you, PotPlayer maybe a bit difficult to operate, whereas VLC is quite simple. You can read the article, the link of which I gave you yesterday to read more. The article has links to individual media player review too. So, read it, and download if you like. You can give PotPlayer a try. Just make sure, that you don't allow it to associate the media formats, otherwise the files will by default open with it. That's the thing you should take care, when installing different media players, be it music, or video players. Otherwise, you can install several media players on your computer.

About cabinet files, I don't have idea about installing DirectX, so I can't say how so many cabinet files got in that folder. What you can do is, make a new folder, and put these cabinet files into it. And you can move that folder anywhere you want, since its just a folder. After that, see if everything works properly. If yes, then that folder can be kept in the other location where you moved it. If things do not work properly, then you might have to move the files back, as they were.

Someone else may give you more helpful answer about this issue.
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Old 10. Oct 2011, 10:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks Anupam for your detailed and helpful advice. I will do as you suggest and uninstall Media Player Classic, and as VLC is working okay for me at present, I will defer from trying out PotPlayer for now, in view of what you say about the difficulties I might encounter in operating it. Better to be safe than sorry!

I will re-post my query about cabinet files in another forum to see if anyone can offer further help on that issue.

Thanks again for your help. It is much appreciated.
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Old 10. Oct 2011, 10:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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My pleasure Kodika .

About PotPlayer, I meant that it won't give you any errors, or anything, and won't harm your system... but it takes time to get used to it, as its a little different from other players, and can be a little difficult to operate. But, its a solid and excellent player too.

Anyways, since VLC is working good for you, stick with that. You can experiment with other players later, when you gain confidence .

Good luck!
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