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Old 17. Jul 2013, 10:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Again, thanks for all the advice guys.

I'm not sure what my sis used to make the disks Anupam. I don't think she used the native Windows System Restore feature. I suspect she used something called "Acer eRecovery Management". The latter provides 2 options:
  1. Create factory restore disks, and
  2. Create a backup disk of the computer's drivers.
I also suspect the Acer eRecovery Management software is just a GUI or front, and that it uses another program which came factory installed called NTI Backup Now 5. Of course, I have no definite proof of that, but when snooping around the folders on my C: drive, I remember seeing some PNG or GIF files that aroused my suspicions. I may be wrong of course, but it's one reason why I haven't tried to uninstall NTI Backup Now 5 when I was getting rid of bloatware.

And yes J_L, she burned 3 DVDs and sent them with the computer to me.

Anupam, if it's very important to find out what my sis used to burn the disks I could try to ask her. It's possible she may not remember though.

I asked about the partitioning the external HDD because I thought that would be the way to go. As mentioned before, I will also be storing less critical and infrequently used personal files on the external HDD. If you think partitioning is unnecessary for my simple needs, then I'll go that way for now. I may have to get my foot wet some time though, because I like to keep things as organized as possible. IMHO, without good organization, it could get difficult later on as my data grows. Better to start organizing earlier than later.

And you do have a point about 200 GB being insufficient for the future J_L. Hopefully, by that time I'll be getting more and bigger external HDDs that will take care of that issue. It's just that I only have this single 500 GB HDD to work with for now.
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Why not use Win 7 system image and system repair disc utilities? I think they work great.
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Old 18. Jul 2013, 11:59 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what my sis used to make the disks Anupam. I don't think she used the native Windows System Restore feature. I suspect she used something called "Acer eRecovery Management". The latter provides 2 options:
  1. Create factory restore disks, and
  2. Create a backup disk of the computer's drivers.
Yes, I too feel she might have used "Acer eRecovery Management" to make the discs. According to the options provided, it seems like a great tool. What more would you want . Because, with most of the laptops I have seen, you do not get any discs at all.. only the recovery partition is provided on the laptop, which you can use to restore the laptop to a factory state. I seriously feel that OS and driver discs should be provided to the users, like before. But well, little can we do about these changes.

Well, I do think it's important to know about how the discs were made, because you will know what's exactly on the disc. You can also boot from the discs, and see what's it all about. You can also run the discs while in Windows, and see the contents. If those are factory restore discs, that would be great. Then, in future, when you feel like you are ready to delete the e-recovery partition, you can do so... since you already have the discs with you. But, for now, I will suggest keeping that partition.

Also, if you have not made that drivers disc yet, do make it too.

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I also suspect the Acer eRecovery Management software is just a GUI or front, and that it uses another program which came factory installed called NTI Backup Now 5. Of course, I have no definite proof of that, but when snooping around the folders on my C: drive, I remember seeing some PNG or GIF files that aroused my suspicions. I may be wrong of course, but it's one reason why I haven't tried to uninstall NTI Backup Now 5 when I was getting rid of bloatware.
I don't think the e-Recovery is being done with the help of NTI Backup. It's just a pre-installed program which you can uninstall IMO. Many OEM laptops come with such pre-installed stuff, like PowerDVD, etc. These are just bloatware IMO.

But, of course, since the laptop is returned to a factory restore state, some sort of imaging or backup must be used underneath... but I don't think it's NTI.

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I asked about the partitioning the external HDD because I thought that would be the way to go. As mentioned before, I will also be storing less critical and infrequently used personal files on the external HDD. If you think partitioning is unnecessary for my simple needs, then I'll go that way for now. I may have to get my foot wet some time though, because I like to keep things as organized as possible. IMHO, without good organization, it could get difficult later on as my data grows. Better to start organizing earlier than later.
Partitioning of the external drive is not necessary, but if you feel you want to do it, you can. It's a personal choice. Like you, I too like to keep organized, it saves a lot of trouble later on. I have partitioned my drive in the system, according to way I want. But, I have kept external drive unpartitioned, because I like to store my videos and music there, and partitions can be quickly filled up with those, and can be restricting. So, I use folders to organize things on the external drive.

If you feel partitioning would be good for you.. you can go for it. As before, I will suggest emptying the disk first.

Also, the disk might be FAT32 presently. With that, you cannot create or store a single file of more than 4 GB on it. I had this problem on my external HDD when I wanted to store an ISO of a video CD I had. So, formatting to NTFS would be better. But, make sure you won't be required to use that drive on MAC, because MAC cannot write to NTFS drives... can only read. In that case, exFAT is a good choice to format in, and then it will work on MAC and Windows both.
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I do have factory restore disks which my sis made for me when the laptop was first purchased, but I'm in favor of keeping the PQ Service partition as added insurance. For that matter, I have to get around to verifying that they work. My BIOS was changed already to boot from the optical drive first - if I were to insert the 1st disk and reboot, would that be a good way of verifying at least the 1st disk?
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Yes, that would be a good way to test the disc, by booting the laptop from it.
I do want to test the disks, but now I'm running into another problem. In a nutshell, even though I set the BIOS to boot from the CD/DVD drive first, something is buggy. After setting the BIOS I have successfully booted from a CD, but now it's not working! Nothing I've tried can get it to boot again. Nothing has changed in the BIOS since I'd set it to boot from the CD/DVD drive, so I'm really puzzled . Nevertheless, I'll start a new thread about that issue after I try to do some more research and gather more information.
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Well, I do think it's important to know about how the discs were made, because you will know what's exactly on the disc.
OK. I'll ask her.
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Also, if you have not made that drivers disc yet, do make it too.
Good advice - I felt the same way when I saw that option. I'll do it later.
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I don't think the e-Recovery is being done with the help of NTI Backup. It's just a pre-installed program which you can uninstall IMO. Many OEM laptops come with such pre-installed stuff, like PowerDVD, etc. These are just bloatware IMO.

But, of course, since the laptop is returned to a factory restore state, some sort of imaging or backup must be used underneath... but I don't think it's NTI.
I want to believe the NTI software is bloatware too, but I want to take a cautious approach. Once I have burned all my backup disks and made sure Paragon and my images are working properly, I'll uninstall NTI, but not before.
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Partitioning of the external drive is not necessary, but if you feel you want to do it, you can. It's a personal choice. Like you, I too like to keep organized, it saves a lot of trouble later on. I have partitioned my drive in the system, according to way I want. But, I have kept external drive unpartitioned, because I like to store my videos and music there, and partitions can be quickly filled up with those, and can be restricting. So, I use folders to organize things on the external drive.

If you feel partitioning would be good for you.. you can go for it. As before, I will suggest emptying the disk first.
OK. I will use a folders system for now to keep things organized. Later, when I get another external HDD I'll venture into partitioning if I need it.
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Also, the disk might be FAT32 presently. With that, you cannot create or store a single file of more than 4 GB on it... ...formatting to NTFS would be better.
My external HDD is NTFS - that's what Paragon says.
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...make sure you won't be required to use that drive on MAC, because MAC cannot write to NTFS drives...
It's not an issue with me because I'm not using Apple computers.
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