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Old 20. Jun 2013, 06:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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just downloaded this from link or rather downloaded a load of unwanted stuff I cannot now remove including 'Delta Searchbar!!
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Old 20. Jun 2013, 06:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You are talking about System Explorer from this review:

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...ess-viewer.htm

I just installed System Explorer on my computer, and I can say for sure that there is nothing bundled with the program. It's clean.

The VirusTotal result comes up with 0 detection too. It's clean there too.

Delta Searchbar must have come from somewhere else definitely. Did you install any other program?
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Old 20. Jun 2013, 08:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks looking again at the page I think I must have clicked on where it says Zip Opener assuming this was the opener for system explorer
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Old 20. Jun 2013, 08:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Actually I will just correct this repeated the process on the right link. I don't believe I did make that error opening file seems to use 'Zip Opener' which I think is the cause of the problems
It is the 'Download' link click on it & you get two download green bars [underneath I think is the actual download]
I assumed as I think many would that these bars download System explorer however they do not but instead go to 'Zip Opener'

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Old 21. Jun 2013, 12:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Where did you download it from..? The System Explorer site has no green bars or anything like that, this sounds more like CNet or something, but the link that Anupam posted above takes you straight to the System Explorer site.

I disabled all my noscript etc to double check but I can't see anything like what you describe. I've used this program for years now and I've never had anything bundled with it.

On a positive note, there are plenty of useful threads and suggestions on this site (techsupportalert/Gizmo) for getting rid of unwanted toolbars etc.
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Old 21. Jun 2013, 07:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I was going to ask the same question as sicknero... and had posted on similar lines.. but I now see the problem.

I disabled AdBlockPlus for System Explorer site, and on refreshing the download page:

http://systemexplorer.net/download.php

I see two big "Download Now" buttons, which can be misleading for some people, if they do not notice that those are just ads.

So, Collier must have clicked on those links, which were responsible for the installation of the toolbar.

Collier, please be careful of such deceptive links. Nowadays, these are abundant on all download sites, as well as other sites. You should watch carefully what you are clicking.

You also need to be careful during installation of programs, as many programs are bundled with extra third party software nowadays, and operate in deceptive ways.

We do post warnings and cautions in our reviews regarding the bundled programs, but we cannot do the same for the sites with ads on them... it's just too much. Therefore, users should be careful on their ends as to what they click.

Which browser are you using for surfing?

I will suggest that you install an ad-blocking extension for your browser. Please tell us which browser, and we will direct you to a suitable ad blocking extension. Nowadays, an adblocking extension is a must have.

I will also advise you to start using Sandboxie : http://www.sandboxie.com

If you decide to use it, will direct you towards an easy tutorial on our site itself. And plenty of people are on forum to help you as well.

Also, please post your security setup, so we can advise on that too.
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Old 21. Jun 2013, 08:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The free version of WinPatrol is one of the best programs for blocking toolbars, browser hijacks and other system changes.

http://www.winpatrol.com/

Plus, as indicated above, unless you are using IE, AdblockPlus and Ghostery are available for the leading browsers.
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Old 21. Jun 2013, 09:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
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My apologies Collier, you're absolutely right! It's been interesting though and a good reminder of how easy it is to take things for granted...

I don't have adblock and I thought that disabling noscript and flashblock would be enough to show me any extra content on the System Explorer site, but it wasn't.

I still don't know what add on I have that is blocking the extra content, but I had to restart Ice Dragon with all add ons disabled to see it, and then just a single green button offering me some kind of pdf convertor. I'll go through them one by one later to see exactly what's blocking the ads for me, as I'm kinda curious now!

In case you're tempted by all this talk of ad blocking and so on, I thought I'd just show you this pic of what the System Explorer download page looks like here, with all my add-ons running -



(Edit - It seems that it's Ghostery that is blocking the ads for me. I didn't know it did that :-) )
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Old 21. Jun 2013, 05:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks
I agree and normally I would have been more careful but I wasn't expecting the 'trickery' on the page
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Old 21. Jun 2013, 06:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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(Edit - It seems that it's Ghostery that is blocking the ads for me. I didn't know it did that :-) )
Ghostery does block an amazing amount of things.
Download buttons that lead to what you want to download are getting harder and harder to see with all the large buttons that lead to other downloads..........it's frustrating, and, in my opinion, misleading.

I've started searching for any programs I want to download on Softpedia, FileHippo, Major Geeks and the like to make sure I get the link to the program. Softpedia has a few large buttons to download other things but they're pretty clear about it. Often times the developers site will lead to a download site like CNET so I head somewhere else to get the program. I really, truly, definitely don't need the CNET installer...

The other thing I check is the name of the file when it starts to download, I've cancelled a few downloads when the file name was something other than what I wanted to download.
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