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Old 13. Apr 2011, 03:35 AM   #24 (permalink)
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OpenCandy has been the topic of much discussion around here for a while now, and a good deal more is known about it now than was two or three months ago when we first started discussing it in the closed forums. My initial view was that OC was both adware and spyware, and that view hasn't really changed much. It has evolved though, and i no longer rate OC in the same way i would rate a virus or other forms of malware. That said, i don't want it on my computer. The one thing that would change my mind is if there was, somewhere in the install process of whatever software, an option to have, or not have, my computer scanned by OC. It's that simple. "Do you wish to have your system scanned by OpenCandy so we might offer you software you might like....yes or no". It's the jackboots enforcement of OpenCandy i loathe so much, and until this situation changes (which it probably won't), no OC bundled apps on my machine thanks....i'll buy payware before i use OC bundled freeware. It bothers me also that OC may be luring the unwary noob or non techie computer user into installing the latest "one click system speedup/registry wrecker" or whatever: imo that's not good practice. Apparently these applications are recommended by the developer of whatever OC bundled app is being installed, but i wonder how many developers would allow a one click registry wrecker anywhere near their computers?

I went over some of the things you're talking about in the Donation Coder forums here:

http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/i...4305#msg244305

The issue to watch is:

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Originally Posted by garth View Post
The one thing that would change my mind is if there was, somewhere in the install process of whatever software, an option to have, or not have, my computer scanned by OC. It's that simple. "Do you wish to have your system scanned by OpenCandy so we might offer you software you might like....yes or no".
It goes to the problem of multiple "opt-in/out" prompts, which is a PITA for the user, and a PITA for the developer.

Again, it boils down to trying to strike a balance.

Regarding scanning your computer, the "scan" is merely a boolean check against a validation code. DrApp posted in the original review what that was, which was nice because I wasn't exactly sure how it was working until then. For easy reference, here it is:

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OpenCandy does indeed want to make sure that we don't recommend something that someone already has installed. However, OpenCandy does *NOT* scan your computer and catalog all the programs you have installed (a very common misconception for some reason). What the OpenCandy installer plug-in does do is use what we call "validation code" to determine whether a recommendation a developer has chosen is valid for a given computer. As an example, someone without Outlook installed wouldn't benefit from an Outlook plugin. So if a developer has chosen to recommend an Outlook plugin, an XML-based file of "validation code" is sent to the user's computer. The OpenCandy plug-in (running locally) checks the "validation code" to see if Outlook is installed and if so, the OpenCandy plug-in sends our server a binary "yes" in order for the graphics and messaging for the recommendation screen to be sent to the user's computer to be displayed during the publisher's installation process.
I posted some of the XML with the validation code in my "Opening Up OpenCandy" post.

I won't post the XML because it's going to look like gobbledy-gook to a lot of people, but it's readily available there.


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Thanks though Ryan for taking the time to put your point of view across

There are lot more people using software, than they are writing software, so I hope that I've put across some kind of a balanced view from "the other side".


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...and incidentally, i enjoyed the Slayer review on your blog
Thanks! It was great to finally get out and see them, though I had to go to 2 Slayer concerts to see them once! Hahahah~!

One thing I can definitely say with 110% certainty... It's hard as Hell to get a good picture when you're in the front row of a mosh pit/Slayer concert~! I took a lot of pictures, but only a few turned out half-decent.

I'm just starting to get into photography, and like to post some of the more interesting stuff (I posted "Reptile Porn" over at Donation Coder for a joke -- it's safe for work).

My Photo Resizer software (that includes OpenCandy) came out of getting into photography. My wife likes to upload pictures to Facebook a lot, and I originally wrote it for her. Other software was complicated for what she wanted to do. I found myself using it a lot instead of Photoshop, and decided to make it publicly available.

I actually write a lot of small utilities for my own use, and thought that a "Super Simple" web site would be an ideal way for me to publish those fast, easy to use programs without taking up too much time. (I put food on the table through other means. )

I have several other programs that I have yet to release there though. They're the same type of fast and easy programs with a dedicated purpose.

I chose OpenCandy because I wanted the site to support itself if possible, and after looking into OpenCandy, saw that it offers an excellent balance for that and for end users.

But it's certainly not going to make me rich. If it were to cover server costs, that would be nice.
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