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Re Norton: There's certainly room for such a product, and I'm happy that their recent version is supposedly much improved. (By the way, my pet peeve with a previous version was its constantly interrupting me to try to connect to the internet.) Now all we need is a utility that magnifies browser title bars, and puts the word "freeware" in a big, bright red, blinking font.
I recently installed AntiVir on a computer (not connected to the internet). It seemed to install OK, but I couldn't get it to do any scanning. Anybody else run into this?
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Norton Security Scan and Clean provides free on-demand scanning and removal or repair of viruses, spyware, and other security risks
It uses Symantec virus definitions to scan your computer for the latest security risks. http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Norton-Security-Scan.shtml
Thanks for the correction. Oh, yes, Avast has heuristics capabilities and for the peeps who have not configured your Avast yet, here's how to locate the heuristic module.
1. Right-click the Avast tray icon.
2. Hit the top-most menu item: On-Access Protection Control
3. Hit the button: Details...>>
4. Choose which provider you want and then Hit the button: Customize.
5. Look for the Heuristic Tab. It's there. You should be able to find it.
In the XP Control Panel main window (Classic View) and in the Security Center, an Avira icon appears. I think it is a given assumption that once an application is recognized by Windows "as it's own" then phoning Microsoft would be my next (un)educated guess. Just an observation.
Simply, Microsoft has a List of Certified Partners
whose software is immediately recognized.
-It is not hidden.
-It is not suspicious.
-It is not a Conspiracy.
No Private/Personal Data is used!
Relax...
I don't plan add to add Norman Malware Cleaner. However, I intend to include Norton Security Scan in the review in the next few days, as I'm currently held up with other things.
I am familiar with Microsoft's Certified Partners but this is not answering my query. Even as a 'Certified Partner' why does Avira need to contact Microsoft every time I initiate a scan? The reason I want to know is because just about every other MS process that connects to the net has been exploited in one way or another for malicious purposes and if this is not an essential part of Avira's scanning requirements then it is unnecessary and should be disabled. There are too many of these "friends and family" type relationships between software. What is the point of having any network security at all unless you take all possible steps to ensure that the connections being made are necessary as well as legitimate? There is a huge gap between paranoia and complacency and I try not to be either one - just certain!
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Am I right in thinking that the Norton scan can only be completed in full using IE with ActiveX Control enabled? In this case wouldn't it be a risk in itself? I know that there was a buffer overflow vulnerability and other issues at one time but I think this was 2006 and most likely sorted now. JT's knowledge here will be greater than mine, but just thought I'd mention it.
I have the same doubt too about Norton Security Scan. The product page, does not at all makes it clear, whether it is a standalone downloadable utility, or does it run online itself. The size listed on download page is just over 1 MB.. whats that supposed to mean?
MANY people are having trouble installing Free AVG 8.5. It keeps giving off various error messages and will NOT proceed with installation. Iam just sticking with the Free AVG 8.0. >This is WAY too much trouble.... and not worth it!
The suite has some interesting features and it's general AV/Spyware capabilities are about on a par with Avast! although script malware detection is no where near as good as Avast! or Avira. The firewall component is very poor. You could provide third party protection with Script Defender although the firewall strength is still an issue.
I think I get the confusion now. There are two services Norton Security Scan and Symantec Security Check (online with no pre-download). It's the online version that's needs IE and ActiveX for full functionality.
Antivirus can detect, block and remove VIRUSES (which are bad programs that can kill off your computer), Antispyware can detect, block and remove SPYWARE, ADWARE, and a load of other minor threats such as keyloggers, trojans etc, spyware are programs that is set to record information about the user, which may include bank details, adware are programs that display ads in your computer in some way which will be annoying, though not as damaging, trojans are programs that appear to be good, but once in your computer, offer assess to your computer to a potential cracker (hacker in layman terms), and keyloggers are programs that log the keypresses you do, so they can detect the passwords that you type in while online. Most Antivirus nowadays offer both antivirus AND antispyware components, which includes Avira, Avast and AVG. I find Avira the best because it doesn't use much resources, it doesn't cause any problems, and its detection rate is extremely high, with just a few false positives.
Excellent answer. Virus = stuff coming in; spyware = stuff going out.
Also highlights the need for additional protection over and above that provided by Windows firewall (incoming only) if your PC contains information you don't want to share with the rest of the world. A third party firewall won't necessarily prevent an attempt to "phone home" but it will alert you to it.
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Agreed, including worms, but in order to do the damage it's designed for in general terms a virus needs to come 'in', and spyware needs to get 'out'. There are of course many cross-overs and variables which is why the whole lot is now collectively referred to as malware. Thank you for pointing out though that my original post was maybe a bit too specific when in reality such a definition is not possible.
There are of course many cross-overs and variables which is why the whole lot is now collectively referred to as malware. Thank you for pointing out though that my original post was maybe a bit too specific when in reality such a definition is not possible.
Though only FREEware is included here, it seems that for a newcomer to have an idea of what one is getting into, some comparisons with commercial software should be adressed.
PCTools Doctor 6.0, and VIPRE seem to have come to the top of the hierarchy and may deserve a look at.
No malware can catch it all, free or near free($19 for 1 year is practically free). The response to the company to resolve issues with new threats that are not yet included in the software, is critical.
Freeware may not provide a good turn around... while your system is being eaten from the inside.
Bench-marks... are needed. Broad statements as to how good something is, like, 'excellent', 'above average', 'i have not had any problems with it' etc... can be very deceiving.
All you have to do to feel your heart fall into your pant-sit, is run a few of these tools, and you find out the sad truth.
Your perfect little setup you thought was protecting you, is missing a massive amount of obvious cr.p and vice versa. ...and some that you run are pure fraud, that invent threats that do not exist, to get you to buy the product. Some are CPU hogs that take for ever to do the same job others do in a flash.
A truly comprehensive anslysis needs to be done that takes all the tools on the market and compares them all to the same task! A mirrored HD for each one of them in that many identical separate machines. Cluld be done in several identical machines in which the identical HDs are swapped as needed.
You are dreaming... Good luck on hoping the operator is going to avoid this giant minefield... it simply does nto work that way!
That is like expecting a flock of babies from knowing what to put in their mouth or not.
Moreover, the protection you boast for yourself as an educated and savvy user is more false than you want to think. Spend some time on your system and you will see that more than you think lurks in its belly.
you will have to spend some serious time doing that, or your assessment is of little value.
I have been on systems that bragged about the same configuration you bring up, and they were but bags of wormy rot, just that the software did not report it... thus the false sense of security.
Try it ... you will see.
I do not mean to have bursted your security bubble and for you to tremble from this point on... just don't want your words sending others on the cloud you seem to be on, and then have them cry once it's too late.
.
If you want to look at some antivirus tests you could check out AV-Comparatives and AV-test.
I don't really understand your statements of " system is being eaten from the inside" and the "sad truth". One can protect their computers adequately with freeware, they are not bound to get infected or something.
Agreed 100%. In my inevitable fashion I would even go even further and suggest that the first analysis should be that of self. Again I repeat that most of the infected machines I get to see are installed with Dud32, Najinsky and other assorted commercial 'wonderware'. User interaction remains one of the greatest threats, especially regarding internet security. Free or paid anything won't install into some sort of magic 'net angel' without help, but with a little knowledge and a bit of thought FREE is more than enough. Links to all you need are here on this site, and so is the help.
I completely agree! For example there are many experienced users on Wilders Security who go with no security software and still do not get infected, while there are some people who run 10 scanners and still get infected.
I would definitely continue to use Avira, but I've noticed two problems that I can't stand:
1) Avira seems to affect how the computer is restarted. Basically, it somehow causes Windows to kill off all processes without waiting for the process to close naturally. This can cause data loss.
2) Perhaps as a precautionary measure, Avira won't allow alternate Windows shell blackbox/bblean/bbmien (see boxshots.org) to run. Instead of presenting a dialog, however, the process just hangs. Killing off Avira allows blackbox.exe to function normally.
This has been tested on two fresh installs of Windows XP. I do not know if anyone else is affected. I've since switched to the clunkier Avast.
I believe Comodo is too untested to be included here. According to Comodo their detection rates should be on par with the top products by the end of this year so we'll see. :)
Avira is the best in my opninion.
smooth running, excellent detention rates and doesn't slow down my PC.
Tried all the high end brand names like Kaspresky.
I'm sticking with Avira.
The version 9 is major winner in my book!
Probably Avira did NOT pay as much as it was necessary.
PCMag promotes ESET Nod32, Symantec/Norton, and Kaspersky.
ALL of them pay Ads in PCMag.
Do NOT Trust these "Reviews/Evaluations" very much.
The ones who pay for Ads will get the Best comments.
I am using Avira & Sandboxie without any problem. And after hearing so many good things about Drive Sentry, I tried to install it. However, I got this message during installation that Drive Sentry might run into some conflicts with Avira & Sandboxie & so urged me to uninstall them. So, I did not proceed with the installation of Drive Sentry.
So, can any one advice me, if it is safe to go ahead with the installation of Drive Sentry without uninstalling Avira & Sandboxie? Did any one try these 3 programs together?
i have used all the three products.. having installed drive sentry with sandboxie and avira pre-installed. Avira runs smoothly with drive sentry.. no problems at all.. except that initially u have to add them to each others exclusion list. same goes for sandboxie.. however drive sentry will keep prompting for actions with sandboxie. i however removed sandboxie and use returnil instead and i have no problems whatsoever. i recommend returnil to sandboxie..more secure and easier to use.
What works on one computer might not work on another, the only way to really see is to try it on your machine. Just make sure you've got an image backup handy in case something goes wrong.
Thanks killerreds. Just out of curiosity, did you get any prompts from drive sentry about possible conflicts with Sandboxie & Avira, when you installed it? I am asking this because,during installation, Drive Sentry warned me that I will be facing conflicts with not only Sandboxie, but also avira & urged me to uninstall both.
And thanks for telling me about Returnil. It sure looks pretty good.
Hey, thanks for posting that link. I know that reviews can be biased at different sites, but we never know! But, I am not really comfortable with fixing the computer if something goes wrong. I guess I will stick with Avira & Sandboxie for the time being, as everything seems to work fine & I am only a moderate user of the internet.
Of course problems on some people's computers are unavoidable but most users I've seen have no problems while running Returnil. And I don't understand the poster's statement of "And before turning on the "Virtual State" you must use all software installed to register it in the windows." because one can simply turn on Session Lock which is immediate.
Norton internet security scan is just a farce n fake. Each time I download it and run it will comment that it is unable to get definitions. Its really waste.
I have no knowledge to comment about possible conflicts with Sandboxie but I am assured by DriveSentry direct that you can safely ignore the warning for Avira at install and run the two together.
I had exactly the same problem! The program downloaded, unpacked and sat there. Every time I tried to run the program using the Norton icon, the program would say it could not download updates. Wonder if Kaspersky is any better?...
just got done reading the article "2 free applications that make malware a trivial joke" on remove-maleware.com. one is avira antivir 9 (which i already use) the other is geswall (never heard of it). any thoughts on this combo? if i use avira and comodo internet security (firewall and defense+ only) would trying geswall be overkill? thanks.
There are still some links to be found on the web for the full 2009 BitDefender Security Suite (not just the free on demand scanner). Users should be aware though that the firewall component in this package is very poor and the program consistently causes major problems on some systems when trying to remove it. They even produce a separate uninstall tool to help you get rid of it.
In my opinion these types of licenses only appear when there is a problem in an attempt to increase user numbers, otherwise why give away commercial software for free? There are other totally free options from say PC Tools or Comodo which I feel would be a better choice and do a better job.
It is and for some reason I've had issues with it on my laptop. I was running avast home edition and everytime that I shut down my computer Bitdefender would cause a error. Could just be my system though. Running Windows vista home premium sp1 version 6001.
Also I have a question, I recently have been around the block with trying anti-virus products my isp has recently updated its free security package which is free with my internet. Its radialpoint and I haven't heard anything on them when I went to look for a rep I noticed that they were licensed to ISPs only. I decided to recently return back to my faithful avast home edition due to the fact that I had to run a antivirus scan as well as a spyware scan it also slowed down my computer and I have 2gb of ram and 2Ghs AMD Turion 64x2 Mobile. The question I had was should I chose Antivir and drive sentry or should I just stick with avast home. I have tried out the new antivir and I do like the new features but is it not better to have a more complete suit then a more cut down version of the professional one? Any light you could shed on the subject would be appreciated.
Can we still disable ADS on new AVIRA FREE as stated ? Read in AVIRA forum that blocking or removing notifier in 9.x free will require a REBOOT to install uptates.
I was just wondering for my own personal knowledge, would you recommend leaving avira settings as default or would you tune them up a bit to suit specific needs? I always try to get the best possible protection from a anti-virus so I have the scan level set to high. I just wish that anti-virus companies would have better help files to assist in deciding what would work better for certain computers or computer habits.
It's really you're own decision, if you're willing to accept the possibility of some more false positives and slightly higher resources usage then you can switch to heuristics to high.
I'm having problems installing Avira AntiVir 9.0. I downloaded it to my desktop (Windows XP) but when I went to open and install it, I could not open it because I was asked which program I wanted to open the file with.
Please advise.
From their site:
'Once the Beta period has finished, the detection capacity of the antivirus will reduce considerably as it will no longer have access to our Collective Intelligence servers.
From then on, you can get the free version and benefit from special conditions when you buy the full service.'
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Re Norton: There's certainly room for such a product, and I'm happy that their recent version is supposedly much improved. (By the way, my pet peeve with a previous version was its constantly interrupting me to try to connect to the internet.) Now all we need is a utility that magnifies browser title bars, and puts the word "freeware" in a big, bright red, blinking font.
I recently installed AntiVir on a computer (not connected to the internet). It seemed to install OK, but I couldn't get it to do any scanning. Anybody else run into this?
AVG has come out with version 8.5. As usual, I'm waiting a little bit before installing it. Anybody have any notable experiences?
Also, I'd love to get a reliable review of the new Comodo AV.
I have seen somewhere that Avast doesn't have heuristic capabilities. This is entirely wrong.
- FreeIsEnough
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Thanks for the correction. Oh, yes, Avast has heuristics capabilities and for the peeps who have not configured your Avast yet, here's how to locate the heuristic module.
1. Right-click the Avast tray icon.
2. Hit the top-most menu item: On-Access Protection Control
3. Hit the button: Details...>>
4. Choose which provider you want and then Hit the button: Customize.
5. Look for the Heuristic Tab. It's there. You should be able to find it.
Hope this helps.
- FreeIsEnough
Another -FREE-
Malware Removal Tool is:
*** Norman Malware Cleaner ***
-Description:
http://www.norman.com/Virus/Virus_removal_tools/24789/en
Appreciate the correction.
- FreeIsEnough
Does anyone know why Avira 9 Free needs to connect to Microsoft here during an on demand scan?
2009/03/29 20:32:04 Allowed Outgoing TCP 216.246.75.81 [crl.microsoft.com] 80 187.24.144.206 1223 C:\Arquivos de programas\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avscan.exe 1 2009/03/29 20:31:00 2009/03/29 20:31:00 GUI%GUICONFIG#SRULE@APPCONFIG-TCP#C:\Arquivos de programas\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avscan.exe
I've looked on the forum and can't see anything.
Just an observation.
In the XP Control Panel main window (Classic View) and in the Security Center, an Avira icon appears. I think it is a given assumption that once an application is recognized by Windows "as it's own" then phoning Microsoft would be my next (un)educated guess. Just an observation.
- FreeIsEnough
You could well be right - interesting to know what the purpose is though.
Thanks
Is it possible that NO ONE has YET discovered how to update Dr.Web and Kaspersky AVP without re-DL? Just Google it...
No, no!
Simply, Microsoft has a List of Certified Partners
whose software is immediately recognized.
-It is not hidden.
-It is not suspicious.
-It is not a Conspiracy.
No Private/Personal Data is used!
Relax...
Will the editors, here, include
-Norman Malware Cleaner-
in their List, too?
I believe that Both
-Norton Security Scan-
and
-Norman Malware Cleaner-
are Useful Freeware Malware Removers!
I don't plan add to add Norman Malware Cleaner. However, I intend to include Norton Security Scan in the review in the next few days, as I'm currently held up with other things.
I am familiar with Microsoft's Certified Partners but this is not answering my query. Even as a 'Certified Partner' why does Avira need to contact Microsoft every time I initiate a scan? The reason I want to know is because just about every other MS process that connects to the net has been exploited in one way or another for malicious purposes and if this is not an essential part of Avira's scanning requirements then it is unnecessary and should be disabled. There are too many of these "friends and family" type relationships between software. What is the point of having any network security at all unless you take all possible steps to ensure that the connections being made are necessary as well as legitimate? There is a huge gap between paranoia and complacency and I try not to be either one - just certain!
1)Why -Norman Malware Cleaner- will Not be a part of the List?
2)Is there anything Bad with this Freeware?
Can you,please, clarify these issues?
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malwarebytes is a great on demand scanner for free
Am I right in thinking that the Norton scan can only be completed in full using IE with ActiveX Control enabled? In this case wouldn't it be a risk in itself? I know that there was a buffer overflow vulnerability and other issues at one time but I think this was 2006 and most likely sorted now. JT's knowledge here will be greater than mine, but just thought I'd mention it.
Yes, it's mentioned here:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remove...
I have the same doubt too about Norton Security Scan. The product page, does not at all makes it clear, whether it is a standalone downloadable utility, or does it run online itself. The size listed on download page is just over 1 MB.. whats that supposed to mean?
Anupam Shriwatri, India
MANY people are having trouble installing Free AVG 8.5. It keeps giving off various error messages and will NOT proceed with installation. Iam just sticking with the Free AVG 8.0. >This is WAY too much trouble.... and not worth it!
You can use Avast Antivirus, that one is very popular in Europe.
I don't think so, I just downloaded the program and scanned with it.
Norman Malware Cleaner
is a very effective Malware Removal Tool.
JonathanT,
if you try it,
you will include it in your List.
Free 1 Year license key for Bitdefender IS 2009 - see www.raymond.cc
The suite has some interesting features and it's general AV/Spyware capabilities are about on a par with Avast! although script malware detection is no where near as good as Avast! or Avira. The firewall component is very poor. You could provide third party protection with Script Defender although the firewall strength is still an issue.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Security-Related/AnalogX-Script-De...
Seconded. Downloaded and tried it even before the bruhaha here. No fears.
- freeisenough
I think I get the confusion now. There are two services Norton Security Scan and Symantec Security Check (online with no pre-download). It's the online version that's needs IE and ActiveX for full functionality.
Can someone plese indicate a link? Thanks.
Maybe someone can explain for me what differences between antivirus and antispyware? Do antispyware can detect and remove virus?
Antivirus can detect, block and remove VIRUSES (which are bad programs that can kill off your computer), Antispyware can detect, block and remove SPYWARE, ADWARE, and a load of other minor threats such as keyloggers, trojans etc, spyware are programs that is set to record information about the user, which may include bank details, adware are programs that display ads in your computer in some way which will be annoying, though not as damaging, trojans are programs that appear to be good, but once in your computer, offer assess to your computer to a potential cracker (hacker in layman terms), and keyloggers are programs that log the keypresses you do, so they can detect the passwords that you type in while online. Most Antivirus nowadays offer both antivirus AND antispyware components, which includes Avira, Avast and AVG. I find Avira the best because it doesn't use much resources, it doesn't cause any problems, and its detection rate is extremely high, with just a few false positives.
AVZ antiviral toolkit is a great and fast on demand scanner with database update.
Excellent answer. Virus = stuff coming in; spyware = stuff going out.
Also highlights the need for additional protection over and above that provided by Windows firewall (incoming only) if your PC contains information you don't want to share with the rest of the world. A third party firewall won't necessarily prevent an attempt to "phone home" but it will alert you to it.
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Thanks Peter.
-spyware is *also* stuff coming in.
-virus can *also* be stuff going out
(= think of the case of a virus that
multiplies itself by expanding into/infecting new PCs).
Agreed, including worms, but in order to do the damage it's designed for in general terms a virus needs to come 'in', and spyware needs to get 'out'. There are of course many cross-overs and variables which is why the whole lot is now collectively referred to as malware. Thank you for pointing out though that my original post was maybe a bit too specific when in reality such a definition is not possible.
Finally removed Dr.Web. Thank you J.T.
SOLVED! It's the WMI Support option under configuration. I unchecked this and the connections ceased. Many thanks to all who contributed.
There are of course many cross-overs and variables which is why the whole lot is now collectively referred to as malware. Thank you for pointing out though that my original post was maybe a bit too specific when in reality such a definition is not possible.
Though only FREEware is included here, it seems that for a newcomer to have an idea of what one is getting into, some comparisons with commercial software should be adressed.
PCTools Doctor 6.0, and VIPRE seem to have come to the top of the hierarchy and may deserve a look at.
- http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
No malware can catch it all, free or near free($19 for 1 year is practically free). The response to the company to resolve issues with new threats that are not yet included in the software, is critical.
Freeware may not provide a good turn around... while your system is being eaten from the inside.
Bench-marks... are needed. Broad statements as to how good something is, like, 'excellent', 'above average', 'i have not had any problems with it' etc... can be very deceiving.
All you have to do to feel your heart fall into your pant-sit, is run a few of these tools, and you find out the sad truth.
Your perfect little setup you thought was protecting you, is missing a massive amount of obvious cr.p and vice versa. ...and some that you run are pure fraud, that invent threats that do not exist, to get you to buy the product. Some are CPU hogs that take for ever to do the same job others do in a flash.
A truly comprehensive anslysis needs to be done that takes all the tools on the market and compares them all to the same task! A mirrored HD for each one of them in that many identical separate machines. Cluld be done in several identical machines in which the identical HDs are swapped as needed.
That is a lot of machines and man-hours...
.
You are dreaming... Good luck on hoping the operator is going to avoid this giant minefield... it simply does nto work that way!
That is like expecting a flock of babies from knowing what to put in their mouth or not.
Moreover, the protection you boast for yourself as an educated and savvy user is more false than you want to think. Spend some time on your system and you will see that more than you think lurks in its belly.
you will have to spend some serious time doing that, or your assessment is of little value.
I have been on systems that bragged about the same configuration you bring up, and they were but bags of wormy rot, just that the software did not report it... thus the false sense of security.
Try it ... you will see.
I do not mean to have bursted your security bubble and for you to tremble from this point on... just don't want your words sending others on the cloud you seem to be on, and then have them cry once it's too late.
.
I removed some questionable products and links.
If you want to look at some antivirus tests you could check out AV-Comparatives and AV-test.
I don't really understand your statements of " system is being eaten from the inside" and the "sad truth". One can protect their computers adequately with freeware, they are not bound to get infected or something.
Agreed 100%. In my inevitable fashion I would even go even further and suggest that the first analysis should be that of self. Again I repeat that most of the infected machines I get to see are installed with Dud32, Najinsky and other assorted commercial 'wonderware'. User interaction remains one of the greatest threats, especially regarding internet security. Free or paid anything won't install into some sort of magic 'net angel' without help, but with a little knowledge and a bit of thought FREE is more than enough. Links to all you need are here on this site, and so is the help.
I completely agree! For example there are many experienced users on Wilders Security who go with no security software and still do not get infected, while there are some people who run 10 scanners and still get infected.
I'm behind a custom-rule configured NAT/SPI router.
I use
-Virtualization (Sandboxing)
-Instant System Recovery software.
-Proxomintron.
No resident AV; no software Firewall; no HIPS!
The last two (2) years, I've visited the nastiest sites.
Dr. Web CureIt,
Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool,
and Norman Malware Cleaner
have found Nothing.
I have downloaded the Trial Versions
of all known AVs.
In the worst case, the found just cookies...
check out this website. www.youtube.com/mrizos tests all kinds of security software.
I would definitely continue to use Avira, but I've noticed two problems that I can't stand:
1) Avira seems to affect how the computer is restarted. Basically, it somehow causes Windows to kill off all processes without waiting for the process to close naturally. This can cause data loss.
2) Perhaps as a precautionary measure, Avira won't allow alternate Windows shell blackbox/bblean/bbmien (see boxshots.org) to run. Instead of presenting a dialog, however, the process just hangs. Killing off Avira allows blackbox.exe to function normally.
This has been tested on two fresh installs of Windows XP. I do not know if anyone else is affected. I've since switched to the clunkier Avast.
I don't trust this post even a little bit.
Any possibility of reviewing Comodo Free Anti Virus?
I believe Comodo is too untested to be included here. According to Comodo their detection rates should be on par with the top products by the end of this year so we'll see. :)
Are tou creasy???Like a Firewall is good but the AV make fals Alarm and work not too much
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2051/testkgr.jpg
I personally would like to see the results of several more tests before recommending it.
Thanks
***Products that failed the VB100 April 2009 test***
AEC (Trustport) (Failure reason: 10 wildlist misses)
eEye (Failure reason: 11 wildlist misses)
Filseclab (Failure reason: 53 wildlist misses, 21 false positives)
Finport (Failure reason: 266 wildlist misses, 12 false positives)
K7 Computing (Failure reason: 2 false positives)
MicroWorld (Failure reason: 4 wildlist misses)
Norman (Failure reason: 10 wildlist misses)
PC Tools AntiVirus (Failure reason: 12 wildlist misses)
PC Tools Internet Security (Failure reason: 12 wildlist misses)
PC Tools Spyware Doctor (Failure reason: 12 wildlist misses)
Rising (Failure reason: 10 false positives)
Hey Good article,Thanks for it.
Avira Premium Security Suite got murdered in the pcmag review.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344681,00.asp
Avira is the best in my opninion.
smooth running, excellent detention rates and doesn't slow down my PC.
Tried all the high end brand names like Kaspresky.
I'm sticking with Avira.
The version 9 is major winner in my book!
Probably Avira did NOT pay as much as it was necessary.
PCMag promotes ESET Nod32, Symantec/Norton, and Kaspersky.
ALL of them pay Ads in PCMag.
Do NOT Trust these "Reviews/Evaluations" very much.
The ones who pay for Ads will get the Best comments.
See that Review with Different Results:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/173/security-suites/introduction.html
Avira comes No.1.
What/Whom to believe?
is PCPro independent?
Much more Independent/Trustworthy/Reliable than the others!
Check PCPro Testing methods and you will realize the difference.
I am using Avira & Sandboxie without any problem. And after hearing so many good things about Drive Sentry, I tried to install it. However, I got this message during installation that Drive Sentry might run into some conflicts with Avira & Sandboxie & so urged me to uninstall them. So, I did not proceed with the installation of Drive Sentry.
So, can any one advice me, if it is safe to go ahead with the installation of Drive Sentry without uninstalling Avira & Sandboxie? Did any one try these 3 programs together?
i have used all the three products.. having installed drive sentry with sandboxie and avira pre-installed. Avira runs smoothly with drive sentry.. no problems at all.. except that initially u have to add them to each others exclusion list. same goes for sandboxie.. however drive sentry will keep prompting for actions with sandboxie. i however removed sandboxie and use returnil instead and i have no problems whatsoever. i recommend returnil to sandboxie..more secure and easier to use.
What works on one computer might not work on another, the only way to really see is to try it on your machine. Just make sure you've got an image backup handy in case something goes wrong.
Thank you Jonathan. I guess, I will try to make an image back up later & then try installing drive sentry later.
Thanks killerreds. Just out of curiosity, did you get any prompts from drive sentry about possible conflicts with Sandboxie & Avira, when you installed it? I am asking this because,during installation, Drive Sentry warned me that I will be facing conflicts with not only Sandboxie, but also avira & urged me to uninstall both.
And thanks for telling me about Returnil. It sure looks pretty good.
I thought i would investigate returnil and found this http://download.cnet.com/Returnil-Virtual-System-2008-Personal-Edition/9...
imo it doesnt appear so safe with your system as sandboxie is - so be careful ;)
Hey, thanks for posting that link. I know that reviews can be biased at different sites, but we never know! But, I am not really comfortable with fixing the computer if something goes wrong. I guess I will stick with Avira & Sandboxie for the time being, as everything seems to work fine & I am only a moderate user of the internet.
I forgot to mention, it might be an idea to disable the real-time scanning in DriveSentry after you install it.
Of course problems on some people's computers are unavoidable but most users I've seen have no problems while running Returnil. And I don't understand the poster's statement of "And before turning on the "Virtual State" you must use all software installed to register it in the windows." because one can simply turn on Session Lock which is immediate.
No problem - i use antivir, threatfire and sandboxie - seems a very good combo on both vista and xp :)
Norton internet security scan is just a farce n fake. Each time I download it and run it will comment that it is unable to get definitions. Its really waste.
I have no knowledge to comment about possible conflicts with Sandboxie but I am assured by DriveSentry direct that you can safely ignore the warning for Avira at install and run the two together.
I had exactly the same problem! The program downloaded, unpacked and sat there. Every time I tried to run the program using the Norton icon, the program would say it could not download updates. Wonder if Kaspersky is any better?...
just got done reading the article "2 free applications that make malware a trivial joke" on remove-maleware.com. one is avira antivir 9 (which i already use) the other is geswall (never heard of it). any thoughts on this combo? if i use avira and comodo internet security (firewall and defense+ only) would trying geswall be overkill? thanks.
You can read about Geswall here:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-browser-protection-utility.htm
i always forget the obvious. thanks for the quick reply.
So, can you substantiate your claims?
For anyone who's interested there is a BitDefender Free Edition 2009, free for one year.
http://download.bitdefender.com/windows/desktop/free/final/en/bitdefende...
Is this the cut-down version or the full package?
I believe it's an on-demand scanner.
There are still some links to be found on the web for the full 2009 BitDefender Security Suite (not just the free on demand scanner). Users should be aware though that the firewall component in this package is very poor and the program consistently causes major problems on some systems when trying to remove it. They even produce a separate uninstall tool to help you get rid of it.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/Bitdefender-Uninstall-To...
In my opinion these types of licenses only appear when there is a problem in an attempt to increase user numbers, otherwise why give away commercial software for free? There are other totally free options from say PC Tools or Comodo which I feel would be a better choice and do a better job.
It is and for some reason I've had issues with it on my laptop. I was running avast home edition and everytime that I shut down my computer Bitdefender would cause a error. Could just be my system though. Running Windows vista home premium sp1 version 6001.
I recently tried to click on the kaspersky virus remover link and both of them are not working.
Also I have a question, I recently have been around the block with trying anti-virus products my isp has recently updated its free security package which is free with my internet. Its radialpoint and I haven't heard anything on them when I went to look for a rep I noticed that they were licensed to ISPs only. I decided to recently return back to my faithful avast home edition due to the fact that I had to run a antivirus scan as well as a spyware scan it also slowed down my computer and I have 2gb of ram and 2Ghs AMD Turion 64x2 Mobile. The question I had was should I chose Antivir and drive sentry or should I just stick with avast home. I have tried out the new antivir and I do like the new features but is it not better to have a more complete suit then a more cut down version of the professional one? Any light you could shed on the subject would be appreciated.
I suggest using AntiVir. The new version includes antispyware protection that was previously only available in the shareware version.
Thanks, it's now fixed.
Can we still disable ADS on new AVIRA FREE as stated ? Read in AVIRA forum that blocking or removing notifier in 9.x free will require a REBOOT to install uptates.
I run sandboxie and Avira 9free as well as drive sentry and I don't have any problems to speak of yet knock on wood. Hope that helps.
I was just wondering for my own personal knowledge, would you recommend leaving avira settings as default or would you tune them up a bit to suit specific needs? I always try to get the best possible protection from a anti-virus so I have the scan level set to high. I just wish that anti-virus companies would have better help files to assist in deciding what would work better for certain computers or computer habits.
I just wanted to say you guys are great I really have had very few computer issues thanks to this site keep up the excellent work... You guys rock..
It's really you're own decision, if you're willing to accept the possibility of some more false positives and slightly higher resources usage then you can switch to heuristics to high.
I'm having problems installing Avira AntiVir 9.0. I downloaded it to my desktop (Windows XP) but when I went to open and install it, I could not open it because I was asked which program I wanted to open the file with.
Please advise.
http://lifehacker.com/5234347/panda-cloud-antivirus-is-a-lightweight-alw...
does anyone has any thoughts about this?
See:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/freeware-forum/showthread.php?t=660&high...
From their site:
'Once the Beta period has finished, the detection capacity of the antivirus will reduce considerably as it will no longer have access to our Collective Intelligence servers.
From then on, you can get the free version and benefit from special conditions when you buy the full service.'
I added your comment to the above forum link where an inforamtive debate has started.
cheers, see FAQ in help section on cloudantivirus.com:
link: http://www.cloudantivirus.com/help/01/en/nnv_en.htm#05.htm