Microsoft kills Google Chrome with bad malware signature

eyeb · 09. Oct 2011, 07:36 PM

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ware_signature

about a week old in news but just saw it, anyways wondering if security programs are too "autonomous" now? I mean I don't let Avira do anything on it's own except update and scan, if anything is detected, it has to ask me what to do...

Even though this is a mistake, anyone else feel like antivirus software monitors computer TOO much now, and then decide what to do without any more input from users for the most part?

4goTTen21 · 09. Oct 2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eyeb

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ware_signature

about a week old in news but just saw it, anyways wondering if security programs are too "autonomous" now? I mean I don't let Avira do anything on it's own except update and scan, if anything is detected, it has to ask me what to do...

Even though this is a mistake, anyone else feel like antivirus software monitors computer TOO much now, and then decide what to do without any more input from users for the most part?

Yes, I think they're doing it so the user has no need to do anything, but some people (including me) wants to know what is going on on their system. I don't want AV take one of my files thinking its insecure and delete it. I always choose any security software for its capabilities but also if I can have control over all taken actions.

4goTTen21 · 09. Oct 2011, 08:43 PM

By the way, your location: Planet X

Nibiru?

emmjay · 10. Oct 2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eyeb

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ware_signature

about a week old in news but just saw it, anyways wondering if security programs are too "autonomous" now? I mean I don't let Avira do anything on it's own except update and scan, if anything is detected, it has to ask me what to do...

Even though this is a mistake, anyone else feel like antivirus software monitors computer TOO much now, and then decide what to do without any more input from users for the most part?

This was a mistake, as you have pointed out, however just a few days ago MSE flagged my SANDBOX GUI as malware. Fortunately I had it set to inform me and ask me what to do. I would have been very annoyed if had have uninstalled it. Both MSE and BufferZone Pro have been operating on this PC for several years without incident ... what was new in MSE to have it determined this application as malware I will never know. All my sweeps showed a clean system after the incident (including a full MSE scan).

kendall.a · 10. Oct 2011, 09:02 PM

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Both MSE and BufferZone Pro have been operating on this PC for several years without incident ... what was new in MSE to have it determined this application as malware I will never know.

Are they ever going to make Bufferzone Pro 64-bit compatible?! According to their website, it's supposed to happen in 2011....

bo.elam · 11. Oct 2011, 03:43 AM

False positives are part of the game when using an antivirus. Users just need to learn what to do when something gets detected and not get nervous and start deleting things before making sure what the detection is. Verifying whether a detection is malware or not, should be like a normal process.

Bo

MidnightCowboy · 11. Oct 2011, 07:43 AM

Good point. I've never understood what is so hard about using a right click "scan with" option for a second opinion or shoving something by email to VirusTotal for the same.

All of these incidences are triggered by "looks like", "behaves like", "is packed so I can't see it", "isn't in our database so it must be bad", and other kinds of "maybe" detections. This means false positives are inevitable so learning how to deal with them is an important part of PC management, for Windows at any rate.

Vendors don't help either with their misleading use of terms like "360" and "total". Folks using these products feel "protected" because that's what they're told. In effect they are not protected at all by this, just "advised"

J_L · 16. Oct 2011, 04:54 AM

Stupid mistake or intentional sabotage on competition?

Anyhow, I would've detected IE 6, because it is the greatest harvester of malware.

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eyeb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Planet X Posts: 487	Microsoft kills Google Chrome with bad malware signature http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ware_signature about a week old in news but just saw it, anyways wondering if security programs are too "autonomous" now? I mean I don't let Avira do anything on it's own except update and scan, if anything is detected, it has to ask me what to do... Even though this is a mistake, anyone else feel like antivirus software monitors computer TOO much now, and then decide what to do without any more input from users for the most part?

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MidnightCowboy Site Manager Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: South American Banana Republic, third bunch from the left Posts: 9,250	Good point. I've never understood what is so hard about using a right click "scan with" option for a second opinion or shoving something by email to VirusTotal for the same. All of these incidences are triggered by "looks like", "behaves like", "is packed so I can't see it", "isn't in our database so it must be bad", and other kinds of "maybe" detections. This means false positives are inevitable so learning how to deal with them is an important part of PC management, for Windows at any rate. Vendors don't help either with their misleading use of terms like "360" and "total". Folks using these products feel "protected" because that's what they're told. In effect they are not protected at all by this, just "advised" __________________ Knows nothing and cares even less

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11. Oct 2011, 03:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
bo.elam Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,224	False positives are part of the game when using an antivirus. Users just need to learn what to do when something gets detected and not get nervous and start deleting things before making sure what the detection is. Verifying whether a detection is malware or not, should be like a normal process. Bo

16. Oct 2011, 04:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
J_L Co-Author, Best Free Security List Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,475	Stupid mistake or intentional sabotage on competition? Anyhow, I would've detected IE 6, because it is the greatest harvester of malware.