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Old 13. Jan 2011, 02:12 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Only Windows firewall and SBIE running on my machine. It feels great and
don't feel naked without the AV. If you feel 100% confident about SBIE, then
you can also do it, otherwise, don't. Thats my advice on this matter. One thing
that I am very, very happy about going w/o the AV is that NOW I am not a
Beta tester anymore for the AV companies.

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Thanks for the notice on Sandboxie Anupam.

I have uninstlled MSE 2.0 and am running without a real time AV. I'm confident in Sandboxie's capabilities now, especially on a LUA. I did install HMP and MBAM free for monthly on-demand scans. I'll give it a few a couple of months and if no issues arise, I probably uninstall HMP and MBAM.

I make use of Paragon Free for system partition imaging. I guess imaging is old technology now and does take a bit of time, but it works for me and is simple to implement.

MSE was a bear to uninstall and clean up after even though I used Revo. That's another reason to leave real time AV\AM behind. In an effort to protect the OS, they imbed themselves deeply into the core OS and it's not always easy to get a clean uninstall.

LOL...sorry MC...no plecebo needed here.
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Old 13. Jan 2011, 08:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hi Taurus, great to see you doing it, just be carefull with new installs or
downloaded files and you ll be alright.


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Old 14. Jan 2011, 06:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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That's another reason to leave real time AV\AM behind. In an effort to protect the OS, they imbed themselves deeply into the core OS and it's not always easy to get a clean uninstall.
yes indeed! I've done pretty much the same thing (uninstall MSE).
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Would be nice to get rid of my MSE. Unfortunately I do a lot of downloads and installs and its not necessarily gd to rid of my AV right away.
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Hi Taurus, great to see you doing it, just be carefull with new installs or
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Oh I'll be careful alright! A real-time AV\AM is one less thing I have to download\upgrade\Install. The whole experience with MSE 2.0 install\uninstall left a bad taste in my mouth. First rule of a good real-Time AV\AM is do no harm. IMHO, MSE 2.0 violated that rule.

I never had any such issues with Avast though I will say. But I kept to final release, stable releases.
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Would be nice to get rid of my MSE. Unfortunately I do a lot of downloads and installs and its not necessarily gd to rid of my AV right away.

Terarus, if you don't feel comfortable uninstalling MSE and it's not giving you any issues, then I would keep it. You'll know when you're ready to do without.

One step at a time.
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Old 14. Jan 2011, 03:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
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@ Taurus - Did you get rid of MSE 2.0 completely? I'm having the same issue, never had a problem uninstalling MSE 1.0 - not once, ever. But uninstalling v2.0 from my spare XP Home machine would test the patience of a Saint - it's worse than Norton.
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Hi deya, yes, I think I finally got all of the remnants. But I had to clear out C:\documents and settings\ and a few left overs in C:\windows\system32\.
After doing that and rerunning Ccleaner for both file cleaning and registry cleaning and rebooting 25 times, I think I got most everything.

Also, I did a search on "Microsoft Antimalware Client" and got rid of those folders.

Microsoft should really provide a cleaning tool like other AV\AM vendors do, specifically Avast, Avira, Sas, ect. and so on. If there is such an animal, I don't know about it.

Browsing is much snappier, cpu load is much lower, over all performance is much better.

Norton, well, thanks goodness for the Norton\Symantic clean up tools.
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Thanks for the info, Taurus. Still a work in progress here - this thing is a real pain to get rid of. Maybe I'll start a seperate thread, this one being for Sandoxie. Thanks again.
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Thanks for the info, Taurus. Still a work in progress here - this thing is a real pain to get rid of. Maybe I'll start a seperate thread, this one being for Sandoxie. Thanks again.

You're welcome. Starting a seprate thread is a good idea. I've got a lot to say about MSE 2.0 and the support model that Microsoft is using for this product.
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