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Old 13. Sep 2011, 11:44 PM   #141 (permalink)
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I don't understand your questions Bo. I don't get any error messages. I just open up an email in Outlook and click on a link in the email. It opens up my browser just fine, but it is NOT a Sandboxed browser.

If I already have a Sandboxed browser open and I click on an email link, it opens up a new browser or second browser. It does not open up within the Sandboxed browser.

Does that make sense?

I only use one Sandbox...the default one.
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Old 14. Sep 2011, 03:31 AM   #142 (permalink)
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It opens up my browser just fine, but it is NOT a Sandboxed browser.
Do this test.
SBIE Control>File>Is Window sandboxed?
Drag the finder into the browser Window, it will tell you if the browser is
sandboxed or not.
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If I already have a Sandboxed browser open and I click on an email link, it opens up a new browser or second browser. It does not open up within the Sandboxed browser.

Does that make sense?

I only use one Sandbox...the default one.
For testing, I opened Firefox and OE in the same sandbox and my results
are different than yours. If I have FF already open, when I click the link
on the email, it opens up as a tab of the previously opened sandboxed FF.

Was it like this when you installed SBIE a couple of months ago?. If the
answer is no and the test shows that the second FF is not sandboxed,
create a new sandbox. In the new sandbox, only change the settings
that allow Outlook to work. Afterward, run the browser (first) and then
Outlook, both sandboxed. Now, try the link on the email and see what
happens. If it works fine, means that your default sandbox is not set
properly.


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Old 14. Sep 2011, 05:08 AM   #143 (permalink)
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I think the issue is that my Outlook is not Sandboxed. I think we discussed this a while ago--the issue of Sandboxing Outlook. I thought I had Sandboxed Outlook, but apparently I haven't.

Can you please walk me through the steps of Sandboxing Outlook?

BTW...when I did your test (clicked on a link from within Outlook and opened a browser), the new browser was not Sandboxed.

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In the new sandbox, only change the settings
that allow Outlook to work. Afterward, run the browser (first) and then
Outlook, both sandboxed.
This issue has existed since I started using Sandboxie. And, I think the issue again is that my Outlook is not Sandboxed. How do I run Outlook Sandboxed?
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Old 14. Sep 2011, 05:52 AM   #144 (permalink)
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Bo, I found this discussion about Outlook and Sandboxie in the Sandboxie forums, but it is way over my head!

http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewt...3b5dd3f7097f90

The part that I'm most interested in is this:

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Why does sandboxed outlook doesnt sandbox the user account folder ?. (I checked for new outlook connector accounts created in the sandbox).

Probably because you have selected the template called "Office Outlook", at
Sandbox Settings > Applications > Email Reader
It's not surprising that you would select the template, since without it, a sandboxed Outlook probably gives you a warning that it is not configured to run in that sandbox - and then refuses to run.

The template is configured to allow a sandboxed instance of Outlook to work properly, and to save emails and Outlook's settings outside of the sandbox - primarily so that people don't lose their downloaded emails - and to limit what is allowed out of the sandbox.
If you save emails outside of the sandbox, and also force Outlook to always run sandboxed, it means that even if an infected email was to get past any other defenses that you may have, emails will always be opened sandboxed anyway.
Opening an infected email while sandboxed means that the infection will be confined to the sandbox, and will be deleted when the sandbox contents are deleted.
This also could be my problem:

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Forcing Outlook to always run sandboxed requires a registered version of Sandboxie, and the setting of Outlook as a Forced Program.
Could you still tell me how to make sure that I am running Outlook in Sandoxie?
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Old 14. Sep 2011, 06:05 AM   #145 (permalink)
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Go to
Sandbox Settings>Applications>Email Reader
and select Outlook.

That should do it. Now, right click on Outlook and select to run sandboxed
in the Default sandbox. If it does not run, Sandboxie will give a message
about whats starting but can not run or why it can not run. Think of this
messages as information, not errors. Thats how I see them.

You can always do the test "Is window sandboxed?" or open Sandboxie
control and see what processes are sandboxed to make sure Outlook,
Firefox or whatever program is actually being sandboxed. If you don't
see the process in there, then its not sandboxed.
Read "Appearance"in sandbox settings, it gives you a choice on what to
appear in the top part of the window of the sandboxed program in order
for you to know when the program is sandboxed.

Get Outlook running sandboxed and let me know. All you have to do is
enable the Outlook setting.

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Could you still tell me how to make sure that I am running Outlook in Sandoxie?
Try what I said on my previous post, it should work.

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Duh! I'm an i-d-i-o-t! I got it working just fine. Now, when I open a link in an email, it opens in a Sandboxed browser. Also, any attachments that I open (for example, Exel or Word documents) now open in the Sandbox.

The "Duh" is for the fact that I've been using a quick launch bar/taskbar icon to open up Outlook. I created that quick launch icon years ago; long before I installed Sandboxie. I just found/realized that I can launch Outlook (my email reader) from the Sandboxie icon in my taskbar. I never thought to right-click my Sandboxie icon, left click "Default Sandbox" and then click on "Run Email Reader".

Why I never thought of that I can't tell you.... It makes all the sense in the world now....


P.S. My next learning curve is how/why to set up different Sandboxes. I only use the Default Sandbox right now and I pretty much only use it for browsing and now email.

P.S.S. Sorry for the confusion Bo.
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Old 14. Sep 2011, 06:32 AM   #148 (permalink)
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Nice, so you had it configured alright, you just did not know how to run
Outlook sandboxed. You can also run Outlook sandboxed if you right
click on the Outlook icon in your desktop or taskbar and click run sand
boxed.

Another thing you can do is create a "sandboxed Outlook shortcut" on
your desktop or taskbar, that way when you click on it, Outlook will
open in the sandbox automatically.
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?ConfigureMenu#shell

About using multiple sandboxes, I am using 14 at this time.

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Old 14. Sep 2011, 06:44 AM   #149 (permalink)
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Since the time that you installed SBIE, there has been at least one stable
release, 3.58. If you have not updated, you should do it now. Doing an
over the top, is how I always get it done.
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?AllVersions

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Old 14. Sep 2011, 03:53 PM   #150 (permalink)
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kendall,
bear in mind that with the free version of Sandboxie you don't have the option of forcing programs, such as your browser, to automatically open in a sandbox as you can in the paid version.
Having said that, if you click on a link in your email program (or any other program for that matter) that is currently running in a sandbox then the browser will also open in that same sandbox.

The free version allows you to create multiple sandboxes but only allows you to have one sandbox running at any one time.
The main benefits of having multiple sandboxes is that each can be configured differently depending on what you want to run inside it, and under what restrictions, or if you want things to persist between sessions (such as a program you want to install and use only from within a sandbox for example).
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