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Old 25. Sep 2010, 08:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After many years of browsing the net and experience with almost all the popular security programs, I have arrived at this conclusion. No Masters Degree needed to understand it, just practical experience and the discovery of a unique security concept.

All our available security programs adopt a "Trailing" policy, they engage in a perpetual fight against infections by discovering all the new bugs as they come along and update their data base or "signatures" accordingly. That is a case of closing the gate when the horse has bolted. You never actually catch the horse. The process is never ending.

We all know that prevention is better than a cure. Nobody wants to increase their security by experiencing the trauma of the last theft.

So, conventional AM programs are OUT and Sandboxie is IN.

Ronan Tzur/Tzuk has devised the most brilliant approach to security available on the entire net. He has dispensed with the "Follow the leader" principle of all other programs and constructed what is in effect a "Maximum security prison", a Virtual space or "sandbox" where we can play our games in total unrestricted freedom. All goodies and baddies are invited - come to the party. The baddies can do no harm, they hobble around in the sandbox, going nowhere and when the browser is shut down, all the contents of the sandbox including the baddies are exterminated.

NOTHING gets out of the sandbox into our system - THAT is sheer brilliance - prevention is always better than deriving a cure, but you would be amazed at how many safety precautions are taken AFTER the event in modern society and transportation systems. Thousands of lives are lost in the eternal quest to make things more safe. We have to die to save others.

Sandboxie to my knowledge is Tzuk`s only revenue, so if some bug by a miracle finds an escape route out of the sandbox, then Ronan will with lightening speed block that leak. He has no alternative, because if Sandboxie ever developed a dent in it`s impenetrable armour, then Tzuk`s formidable program would become worthless and sales would plummet downwards faster than a lead balloon.

Tzuk`s miraculous Sandboxie is NOT a "Follow the leader" concept it is a "Get out of that" concept. Rather similar to the legendary Alcatraz "The Rock", where an astonishing record of only 3 escape attempts were made in it`s entire existence and they were not proven successful.

Conventional AM and other "Follow the bugs" programs ? Pay your money and enjoy what they provide in stopping the bugs they know and letting through the ones they don`t.
Sandboxie ? Pay your money or use the free version and enjoy a "Stop `em getting out" philosophy to go where you like on the net in perfect freedom.

It is widely stated by many geeks that Sandboxie is all you need in terms of security. I have not read a single comment which is detrimental to Sandboxie. That is the extent of confidence it has generated. I personally agree, but would never discard my AV and FW. I feel that would be taking confidence a shade too far.
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Old 25. Sep 2010, 08:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The sandbox concept is fairly new from past few years but I've seen people doing this for longer. Before sandboxing became well known, I've used virtual OS to do these kind of things. Like if I was downloading an iffy program for installation, I'd load up windows in virtualbox and try it there first.

It's just sandboxie made things easier and ligher on system, and less complicated so people can use it when they wouldnt use virtualbox for isolation.
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It's just sandboxie made things easier and ligher on system, and less complicated so people can use it when they wouldnt use virtualbox for isolation.
Easiness of use and solid effectiveness is the beauty of Sandboxie.


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Old 25. Sep 2010, 11:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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@Rottie, why don't you start calling Mr. Ronen Tzur by his handle. Tzuk.
Everybody knows him by that name. By the way his real name is Ronen,
not Ronan.
Rottie/John Bull/?, be kind if you really appreciate his program. Well,
actually you should be kind even if you don't appreciate his program.

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@Rottie, why don't you start calling Mr. Ronen Tzur by his handle. Tzuk.
Everybody knows him by that name. By the way his real name is Ronen,
not Ronan.
Rottie/John Bull/?, be kind if you really appreciate his program. Well,
actually you should be kind even if you don't appreciate his program.

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I am so grateful for your educational odyssey, don`t know what I would have done without such a revelation. By the way my most valuable friend from the past, his name is TSUR not TZUK - that is a name he chooses to use for some unknown reason.

Sorry about spelling his first name wrong, nobody is perfect eh ? Don`t think RONAN will mind too much after he reads my glowing tribute to his brilliant product.

Your comment " be kind if you really appreciate his program. Well, actually you should be kind even if you don't appreciate his program." is nothing but an astonishing display of ignorance at the highest level. I have always been VERY kind and complementary of RONAN TSUR in all my posts.

Please don`t nit-pick irrelevancies in your postings to simply make mischief, try to concentrate on main issues.

Rottie or whatever you care to call me.
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Please gentlemen, lets be tolerant and cordial towards each other.

Bo, I understand you have a special thing for Sandboxie and its developer, but lets forgive small mistakes of others, and lets not get to nit-picking on small details. See the bigger picture of how Rottie praised Sandboxie.

I would like to say to both, that please do not aggravate this issue further, and lets focus on the main subject of security, and the kind of security Sandboxie and similar software offer .
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Old 26. Sep 2010, 09:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Your comment " be kind if you really appreciate his program. Well, actually you should be kind even if you don't appreciate his program." is nothing but an astonishing display of ignorance at the highest level. I have always been VERY kind and complementary of RONAN TSUR in all my posts.

Please don`t nit-pick irrelevancies in your postings to simply make mischief, try to concentrate on main issues.
Please appreciate that many members here are communicating in English which is not their native language. This means that sometimes they do not express themselves or phrase responses as native English speakers might expect.

In any case, it is us who will decide what constitutes a mischievous post and act accordingly.
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Old 26. Sep 2010, 09:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Please gentlemen, lets be tolerant and cordial towards each other.

Bo, I understand you have a special thing for Sandboxie and its developer, but lets forgive small mistakes of others, and lets not get to nit-picking on small details. See the bigger picture of how Rottie praised Sandboxie.

I would like to say to both, that please do not aggravate this issue further, and lets focus on the main subject of security, and the kind of security Sandboxie and similar software offer .
Anupam,
What a wonderful, well said and speedy intervention. I thank you for superbly moderating this minor situation before it had chance to escalate.

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Thank you Rottie, and thanks a lot for taking this positively, and also for your co-operation .
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and lets not get to nit-picking on small details
Uh-mm...I know it is a small detail, but...uh...it's supposed to be "let's" not "lets." Pretty ironic huh?

Sorry for having fun at your expense Anupam. Just trying to lighten things up a bit. I was just joking! Really! If you go read my reviews you will find a lot of mistakes for sure! It is easy to misspell something or forget to use an apostrophe or to use "to" instead of "too." etc.

I think both of you greed that Tzuk is a great guy, and SandboxIE is a great program. It appears you agree over more than you disagree!

And you know what? Anupam is really good at handling these things so I should just shut up now and go away.
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