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Old 22. Sep 2010, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Came across this yesterday:


Challenge to Symantec from Comodo Super Hero Melih

Thesis David Hall, a product manager at Symantec:

"If you are only relying on free anti-virus in this modern age, you are not getting the protection you need to be able to stay clean and have a reasonable chance of avoiding identity theft … free anti-virus is not enough: you need in-depth layered technologies, which only come from the more mature paid suites."

Reaction Melih, Comodo's invincible ultra super hero:

"I read what Symantec have said about Free Anti Virus products. This kind of misinformation is just unacceptable from companies like Symantec! Enough is Enough..You can’t mislead end users with blatant lies like this!

If Symantec truly believes what they preach to the media then they will have no problem taking this challenge:

To Symantec: Comodo openly challenges you to an independent test to see which product can protect users better. A $$$ Norton product or totally Free Comodo!

Just let us know. Our respective companies will choose a mutually agreeable independent testing organisation to test which product can “Protect” the end user better.

Eagerly awaiting your answer.

Melih

CEO

COMODO"

Be interesting to see what the response is

Part of the "balanced" discussion from another contributor:

"The flea challenges the dog to a fight. Arf arf arf"
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Old 22. Sep 2010, 09:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Who wants to bet that Symantec will never accept the challenge?

If Symantec were to win, what could they do then? Braging about one commercial product beating one free antivirus vendor would look silly and few would hear about it. Comodo would lose little face.

If Comodo were to win, it would be a victory for all free anti-virus vendors, and the news would spread around the net like wildfire. It would be featured in a lot of technology blogs and Symantec would look quite bad.
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Old 22. Sep 2010, 10:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Symantec would "NEVER" accept such a challenge!

It would make them look bad, give more publicity to Comodo and it would kind of be like digging their own grave.

I remember them trying to poke fun at Microsoft Security Essentials. MSE is a very nice product. I gave it a test run and I'm still using it.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente..._is_solid.html

One thing is for sure: the days of charging too much money for bloated anti-virus/internet security suites are over.

Thanks to forums like these, common sense and better, freer alternatives (most problems arise out of a lack of common sense browsing), the "paid" anti-virus market will very slowly die out.
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Old 22. Sep 2010, 12:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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To Symantec: Comodo openly challenges you to an independent test to see which product can protect users better. A $$$ Norton product or totally Free Comodo!

Just let us know. Our respective companies will choose a mutually agreeable independent testing organisation to test which product can “Protect” the end user better.
ha ha ha...Symantec will dig a whole and hide themselves now...a complete win win situation for Comodo.
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Old 22. Sep 2010, 12:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Symantec would "NEVER" accept such a challenge!

Thanks to forums like these, common sense and better, freer alternatives (most problems arise out of a lack of common sense browsing), the "paid" anti-virus market will very slowly die out.
This could well be but I bet there's a temptation for at least one of the more recognisable independents like MRG to take this up on their behalf
Without any direct input though both vendors would naturally challenge the results if they were unfavourable to their own product

I agree with the first part of your last sentence wholeheartedly but I'm not so sure about the second. The easiest animal on the planet to fool walks on two legs, eats in McDonalds and spends $20 worth of petrol driving round to find a 50c bargain Whilst these still exist there will be a ready market for paid AV's, cup holders, bionic water filters and all the other things they "must have" to survive
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Old 22. Sep 2010, 02:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This could well be but I bet there's a temptation for at least one of the more recognizable independents like MRG to take this up on their behalf
What? I thought matousec already proved that Comodo trumped Norton?
http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro..._m=9&to_y=2010 Tip: scroll down the page to see the comparisons.

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the "paid" anti-virus market will very slowly die out.
Even Comodo has paid versions of their antivirus products. The funding has to come from somewhere.
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I thought matousec already proved that Comodo trumped Norton
To any who are uninitiated, matousecs tests and results are highly questionable so take the comparison however you like but don't bet the farm on them.
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I completely agree that Symantec would never do this. However, even if they won such a competition, this would not demonstrate a win for paid software in my mind. Comodo offers a strong HIPS firewall and cleaning software but it's other offerings are seemingly only a bit better than average. I'd like to see a Norton protected system (which symantec seems to consider to be the end all solution to security) go up against a system protected by say Comodo Firewall, Avira or MSE, MBAM, Sandboxie, and maybe threatfire and/or a DNS w/ blacklist. There, Norton Suite vs Free Suite.

Granted, the free suite would perhaps take a little more user training to function optimally, but I think plenty of people who have been sucked in to the paid security suites wouldn't mind sacrificing a couple hours of reading for $40ish dollars/year into their pockets and a bypass of Norton's perpetual ineffectiveness against malware threats.
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I'd like to see a Norton protected system (which symantec seems to consider to be the end all solution to security) go up against a system protected by say Comodo Firewall, Avira or MSE, MBAM, Sandboxie, and maybe threatfire and/or a DNS w/ blacklist. There, Norton Suite vs Free Suite.

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Or even just Sandboxie and Comodo firewall? Does Norton have sandboxing available? More to the point i suppose, can Sandboxie contain a properly hardcore virus if used correctly?
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Or even just Sandboxie and Comodo firewall? Does Norton have sandboxing available? More to the point i suppose, can Sandboxie contain a properly hardcore virus if used correctly?
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