Lossless MP3

mr6n8 · 24. Mar 2009, 08:15 PM

All4MP3 has released MP3HD, their lossless MP3 codec.

If it is what it claims to be, owners of MP3 players will be able to listen to sound comparable to FLAC.

Supposedly, it is backwards compatible to MP3, although they offer a plugin for playing in WinAmp (which makes no sense to me).

Command Line Encoding and Comman Line Decoding (to wav) are available now.
Free for private non-commercial use.

It will be interesting to see if this catches.

Anupam · 24. Mar 2009, 08:23 PM

Interesting. But the bit rates are quite high, resulting in a large file size. It would be fine with people who don't mind the large file size. But, for those, who convert to mp3, to get a smaller file size than a wav file, its not much of use I guess.

mr6n8 · 24. Mar 2009, 08:32 PM

I have friends who are real sticklers about sound quality and prefer the sound that lossless FLAC delivers, which has the same issue on size. There are some sites I know of that only allow lossless.
I can not tell much of a difference myself, but I would probably go with MP3 lossless as the storage sizes on MP3 players is growing and I don't need much music on there at any given time.
I avoid FLAC because it is not playable as MP3 To have FLAC to play on my computer makes no sense to me, especially given the big difference in size from regular MP3.

Anupam · 24. Mar 2009, 09:06 PM

Yes, that way it will be quite nice to have lossless mp3.
I haven't dealt with Flac or Aac or Ogg... so thats an info for me, that Flac also has large file size. I will try to learn more about other audio formats now. Was thinking of trying out AAC though, since my mobile dosen't play mp3... grrr.

mr6n8 · 25. Mar 2009, 02:09 PM

I did not think about mobile. Size would be more important there.
I do not play music through the phone, but I can not believe they made a phone that does not play MP3. What were they thinking?

Anupam · 26. Mar 2009, 10:18 PM

Well, its an old Nokia 6600... it doesn't have mp3 player in it. But there are softwares which can play mp3, not freeware though

. Still a nice phone though

.

mr6n8 · 27. Mar 2009, 12:30 AM

I have got a Nokia 6061. That is why I don't even think about using a phone for music.
It is hard to part with though.

Anupam · 27. Mar 2009, 10:31 AM

Old phones didn't had much mp3 support, but nowadays, even the cheap ones can play mp3. I do agree about being hard to part though. Its nice to have few songs on the phone. Though 6600 has got real player and can play rm files and that is good... those are quite small files compared to mp3. But I want mp3 for my ringtones.

24. Mar 2009, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
mr6n8 Editor Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 302	Lossless MP3 All4MP3 has released MP3HD, their lossless MP3 codec. If it is what it claims to be, owners of MP3 players will be able to listen to sound comparable to FLAC. Supposedly, it is backwards compatible to MP3, although they offer a plugin for playing in WinAmp (which makes no sense to me). Command Line Encoding and Comman Line Decoding (to wav) are available now. Free for private non-commercial use. It will be interesting to see if this catches.

24. Mar 2009, 08:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Anupam Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 9,187	Interesting. But the bit rates are quite high, resulting in a large file size. It would be fine with people who don't mind the large file size. But, for those, who convert to mp3, to get a smaller file size than a wav file, its not much of use I guess. __________________ Anupam

24. Mar 2009, 09:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anupam Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 9,187	Yes, that way it will be quite nice to have lossless mp3. I haven't dealt with Flac or Aac or Ogg... so thats an info for me, that Flac also has large file size. I will try to learn more about other audio formats now. Was thinking of trying out AAC though, since my mobile dosen't play mp3... grrr. __________________ Anupam

26. Mar 2009, 10:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anupam Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 9,187	Well, its an old Nokia 6600... it doesn't have mp3 player in it. But there are softwares which can play mp3, not freeware though . Still a nice phone though . __________________ Anupam

27. Mar 2009, 10:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Anupam Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 9,187	Old phones didn't had much mp3 support, but nowadays, even the cheap ones can play mp3. I do agree about being hard to part though. Its nice to have few songs on the phone. Though 6600 has got real player and can play rm files and that is good... those are quite small files compared to mp3. But I want mp3 for my ringtones. __________________ Anupam

24. Mar 2009, 08:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
mr6n8 Editor Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 302	I have friends who are real sticklers about sound quality and prefer the sound that lossless FLAC delivers, which has the same issue on size. There are some sites I know of that only allow lossless. I can not tell much of a difference myself, but I would probably go with MP3 lossless as the storage sizes on MP3 players is growing and I don't need much music on there at any given time. I avoid FLAC because it is not playable as MP3 To have FLAC to play on my computer makes no sense to me, especially given the big difference in size from regular MP3.

25. Mar 2009, 02:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
mr6n8 Editor Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 302	I did not think about mobile. Size would be more important there. I do not play music through the phone, but I can not believe they made a phone that does not play MP3. What were they thinking?

27. Mar 2009, 12:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
mr6n8 Editor Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 302	I have got a Nokia 6061. That is why I don't even think about using a phone for music. It is hard to part with though.

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