K-Meleon Firefox Comparison and History

[whocares]

i didn't even know that.. that's great news for those who wanted a 1.9/2.0 gecko kmeleon. it's probably in the makes now and should be released soon.. like seamonkey there have been 'unofficial' kmeleon releases with the 1.9 gecko.. some prefer to use them as default but ofcourse they are not bug-free. i'm not really associated with kmeleon.. i'm not a dev, just a long time user and tester and i write some extensions.

[chris.p]

Useful stuff, keep it up

Can you explain to me please the difference between Flash and Actionscript? Are they both a .swf extension? How can you tell between them from a browser view?

Coldfusion is even nastier I've found for locking up browsers with a 100% CPU load. Trouble is ASP sites tend to use it instead of Flash.

[MidnightCowboy]

I'm just disappointed that Lunascape isn't really moving forward. They keep upgrading the flipping thing but still only one English language plugin for Twitter!

The Gecko engine component is now version 1.9.1.4 (same as Firefox 3.5.4).
Not sure about their Trident and Webkit engine versions.

[bk_7312]

Originally Posted by whocares

regarding noscript, i didn't write that email but many people are realising what a bad extension it is. the sender's complaints are somewhat different from mine.. as i agree that it is indeed overhyped and everything can be managed with hostperm but having a gui for managing it is certainly needed, that's why i recommend policy manager as an alternative for noscript. my main concerns with noscript is; as we were porting the extension to make it work with kmeleon, we have discovered a lot of weird and unneeded coding (some may even regard as malicious)..it's without doubt that mr. malone has a hidden agenda.

Well, it was just a guess anyway... I'm not using noscript at the moment because I noticed a significant (but not that great) slowdown of firefox.

[bk_7312]

Originally Posted by chris.p

Can you explain to me please the difference between Flash and Actionscript? Are they both a .swf extension? How can you tell between them from a browser view?

There's not much difference between Flash and Actionscript, Flash is basically just an environment where you draw stuff and set motions whereas Actionscript is the programming language that Flash uses.

If my explanation is not clear, picture Flash as a drawing tool where you can draw circles and other shapes and also tell them to move in spirals or resize themselves or change shape periodically, you can even make a short movie using only Flash and picture Actionscript as the programming language that allows you to click on the shapes you draw or input words or calculate stuff like when you play a tennis game, the game needs to calculate the speed and velocity and angle of the ball you shot or return, as in you program using Actionscript so that Flash knows what it's suppose to do. This may still be not clear or precise as I'm not very good at explaining things.

A .swf file can contain either Flash with Actionscript or Flash without Actionscript. I think pure Actionscript without Flash is also possible.

No, you can't tell the difference between them in browser view just like you can't tell html from css or aspx or php in browser view (assuming you're not looking at the address bar). But for Flash and Actionscript, there is no way you can tell what is used without extracting them to their .fla or any other flash format file used for development (A.K.A the source file).

I think this is the best an amateur Flash developer (a hobby) can explain.

[vasa1]

Some great posts here.

Possibly off-topic, regarding the OP's views on NoScript: the author of AdBlock Plus has quite a few comments, though not as blunt. You can find them by searching adblockplus.org for "noscript". (For the time I had Noscript installed, I too was filled with wonder over the prodigious rate of updates.)

I too liked K-Meleon a lot but the geek-factor was too much for me. Plus I knew even less then than what I think I know now and so I might give it a relook-see.

In edit: to be fair, it may be mentioned that the NoScript author appears to be quite actively responding to Palant's posts on the AdBlockPlus site.

[vasa1]

I had first used K-Meleon quite a few years based on the TSA recommendation. Then came one update that made it difficult for me to customise the background colour (not theme) and so I had given up on it.

After reading today's posts, I've given the latest version a run and looks like it has everything I want ... (in a browser )

[bo.elam]

Originally Posted by vasa1

Some great posts here.

Possibly off-topic, regarding the OP's views on NoScript: the author of AdBlock Plus has quite a few comments, though not as blunt. You can find them by searching adblockplus.org for "noscript". (For the time I had Noscript installed, I too was filled with wonder over the prodigious rate of updates.)

I too liked K-Meleon a lot but the geek-factor was too much for me. Plus I knew even less then than what I think I know now and so I might give it a relook-see.

In edit: to be fair, it may be mentioned that the NoScript author appears to be quite actively responding to Palant's posts on the AdBlockPlus site.

To me NoScripts updates only means that the developer is on top of his
product, that's all. I only use 3 addons and this is the one that keep me
using Firefox.
Bo

[bo.elam]

Originally Posted by vasa1

I had first used K-Meleon quite a few years based on the TSA recommendation. Then came one update that made it difficult for me to customise the background colour (not theme) and so I had given up on it.

After reading today's posts, I've given the latest version a run and looks like it has everything I want ... (in a browser )

I think I might go for a test drive my self.
Bo

[bo.elam]

I did go for a test drive and I found it faster and lighter than Firefox. I think
Firefox option menu is a lot easier to use and adding addons works better
on Firefox. I installed it sandboxed and use it for only a couple of hours, it
was nice but it will be hard, for me, to find a browser that can demote FF.
Bo