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Old 03. Jul 2011, 11:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking for a free browser with embedded email client or at least just separate email client which can save sent emails in the email server. I mean when I write an email and sent it I want it to be saved in the email server, as if I've written and sent the email from the server, not from the email client.
I tried Opera (it has a very nice email client), Seamonkey (nice email client there too), ThunderBird but they can't save sent emails in the email server itself. They just save sent emails in them. Or may be I'm just missing some options in the email clients I tried?

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Old 03. Jul 2011, 10:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you looked here?: http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...ail-client.htm

I don't know any other Browsers, unless you count Webmail.
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Most email clients will allow you to keep a copy of emails on the server, although I'll be honest, I don't know if it
would keep sent emails. Or if you are using IMAP you can set up folders on the server to store your emails rather than on the email software.

I hope that makes sense.
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Old 03. Jul 2011, 11:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I mean when I write an email and sent it I want it to be saved in the email server, as if I've written and sent the email from the server, not from the email client.
I presume that you are wanting to have an online backup of all your sent messages.

If you want to permanently save your sent mail messages then the best method is to manage it yourself by moving the messages to a folder that you've created. If you don't want to do that then you will need to understand what your email service provider is providing you:
- Which client protocol is being used?
- What service levels are being provided? In your case, can sent emails be permanently stored in the sent mail folder.

From my and your perspective there are four main email protocols used by our email client programs.
  • smtp - is sending only and is most likely to be used for your ISP supplied email addresses. Having a message in the sent mail folder/directory on your email account server will not necessarily save it permanently. Typically, there will be a limited size and, possibly, each message will have a limited life. Such limitations usually apply to email accounts supplied with your internet access.

The other protocols are used for managing the interaction between the client (your system) and the mail server. For example, I use Windows Live Mail (WLM) and I have email accounts that I access using these three protocols. In WLM, I setup accounts for each email account and specify which protocol the email account uses.
  • pop3 - my internet service provider (ISP) email account is pop3 with an associated smtp server for sending. The messages will be kept until I hit the size limit which means about two months worth of sent and received messages.
  • http - my hotmail email account is accessed using http and, as far as I know, the sent messages will be saved permanently until I hit my size limit
  • imap - my gmail email account is accessed using imap and AFAIK works like my hotmail account
Hope this helps.
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If permanent storage of those messages is your priority then I realize that there is more you need to do. If you want long term security for those messages then you will probably need to pay for such a service.

Several years ago, the free email service that I use lost many messages for my primary email account because of a server problem. I had no recourse and would have lost those messages without a local backup. I simply restored them by copying them back to the mail server. From memory, I lost the original message attributes because they became new messages with the current timestamp.

Normally, an email client will download all messages from the server. There are options to turn that off. If you don't turn it off then you will have a local copy of all messages on the server. This means that you can back them up locally.

I use Windows and always move my email data files and configuration settings to a data partition (in this case drive E) that I can backup in its entirety. For example, my Windows Live Mail files are stored here:
E:\Documents and Settings\Me\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\
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Have you looked here?: http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...ail-client.htm

I don't know any other Browsers, unless you count Webmail.
Of course I've seen that.
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I presume that you are wanting to have an online backup of all your sent messages.

If you want to permanently save your sent mail messages then the best method is to manage it yourself by moving the messages to a folder that you've created. If you don't want to do that then you will need to understand what your email service provider is providing you:
- Which client protocol is being used?
- What service levels are being provided? In your case, can sent emails be permanently stored in the sent mail folder.

From my and your perspective there are four main email protocols used by our email client programs.
  • smtp - is sending only and is most likely to be used for your ISP supplied email addresses. Having a message in the sent mail folder/directory on your email account server will not necessarily save it permanently. Typically, there will be a limited size and, possibly, each message will have a limited life. Such limitations usually apply to email accounts supplied with your internet access.

The other protocols are used for managing the interaction between the client (your system) and the mail server. For example, I use Windows Live Mail (WLM) and I have email accounts that I access using these three protocols. In WLM, I setup accounts for each email account and specify which protocol the email account uses.
  • pop3 - my internet service provider (ISP) email account is pop3 with an associated smtp server for sending. The messages will be kept until I hit the size limit which means about two months worth of sent and received messages.
  • http - my hotmail email account is accessed using http and, as far as I know, the sent messages will be saved permanently until I hit my size limit
  • imap - my gmail email account is accessed using imap and AFAIK works like my hotmail account
Hope this helps.
Thank you very much for such a detailed answer. I need time to study it.
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Normally, an email client will download all messages from the server. There are options to turn that off. If you don't turn it off then you will have a local copy of all messages on the server. This means that you can back them up locally.

I use Windows and always move my email data files and configuration settings to a data partition (in this case drive E) that I can backup in its entirety. For example, my Windows Live Mail files are stored here:
E:\Documents and Settings\Me\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\
That's a whole set of good ideas. Thank you.

The matter is that I use Time Machine and sometimes restore previous snapshots. That turns my emails into a mess.
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Store your emails on another partition or drive then.
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The matter is that I use Time Machine and sometimes restore previous snapshots. That turns my emails into a mess.
I assume that you are referring to Comodo Time Machine? If so, how do you like it? Which version of windows are you using it in? Is it 64-bit?
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