Economic Sense?

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I don't mind the pension system though, not exactly related to unions but it comes up together often.

workers with pension benefits are normally underpaid as a result of pension. Teachers/state employees. They make $20,000-$35,000 when they should be making twice that. So the amount of money employers save in present is offset by pension. So if they were paid what they should be without pension, then they would have enough money to save up retirement/investments. The only people i know that are paid a lot with pensions in public sector are police/fireman because of unions and well... they risk their lives for us so I cant fault them for having those benefits.

auto workers have pensions too and are paid a lot :S I don't think they should have both... but that's a private sector thing, and these budgets shouldnt affect city/state except they do because they claim to be too big to fail. So if if was a real free market that people want, then let them fail :S if it was about them having to fire too many people that it would hurt economy, then draft them over into military. Yes I said draft lol, but i mean just hire them out onto navy boats/army bases/tank manufacturers. If government had enough money to bail out the companies, they could have used same money to hire the workers and put them into a different sector that wasn't doing bad. Then free market would pick up the pieces and someone will come by and invest in a new auto industry because the government contracts out the tanks/airplanes/ships to private companies. And welding is welding, putting together a car is no different than putting together a plane... Yes I know that's a big exaggeration but the basic skills are the same

edit: i do agree with you on the leaders part, unfortunately I don't see either sides of the political landscape wanting to be leaders. They can't even stand in the same room to listen to each other without someone getting heated and leaving