Music is too easy nowadays

bibzgi · 10. Jun 2011, 04:42 AM

Thomas Edison was an incredible inventor. Many of his useful products came about after testing the hell out of stuff. He may not have come up with the first ideas sometimes, but he tested the ideas galore and made many of them work in practice.

When I was in my teens, I sometimes spent time at the house of my father and his second wife.

My late dad's second wife had a big record player. It had doors and good speakers. I played my scratchy albums on it. I especially played the Aqualung song by Jethro Tull. In retrospect, I'm surprised that my dad's second wife never complained about this loud listening.

Also, my late dad's second wife had this incredible old music player that used Edison tubes instead of flat vinyl disks. The sound was like opera or some crap and it was hard to hear clearly but it was surely an exciting improvement from when people just heard music directly from the bands and singers if they could afford to go to concert halls.

Now it's so easy to get music. One doesn't even have to download it, one just has to use their web browser to listen to it, and even get the video of it when it was played in concert or in the music lab.

TOO EASY, NO? Listen vs. view and listen

There were instances when I liked to watch my old fart rock from the '60s and early '70s [that's last century for you young people].

It was nifty to see Janice Joplin in concert while listening to some of her songs.

But for the life of me, I would rather listen to many of my old time favourite songs without seeing the videos of when they were played.

For an example, would you like to listen to 1812 Overture or watch and listen to it on some music video? Please choose the former! Imagination counts a lot.

wdhpr · 10. Jun 2011, 06:05 AM

I think the best sound system in the 70's was a Marantz quadraphonic sound system playing the Who's Quadrophenia album.

Cheers

bo.elam · 11. Jun 2011, 04:01 AM

I kind of like viewing and listening. One of my all time favorites is the
album/movie from the 1970s, The Last Waltz.
The Band stayed around for many, many years usually backing up great
ones like Bob Dylan and others but on this day, they were the stars.
The Last Waltz was sort of like a farewell concert, were many great ones
were invited to play their music and say goodbye to The Band.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Las...81978_album%29
Here is one song from The Last Waltz, this is when Neil Young joins in
and plays "Helpless". On the stage you see Rick Danko and Robbie
Robertson of The Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BREYCGWOouw

Bo

bo.elam · 11. Jun 2011, 04:54 AM

Alright guys, I ll give you one more from The Last Waltz. This song was the
last one they played and everybody was on the stage, including some
that were not singing but just having fun. Look at Neil Young's right hand
on .32 Sec and Joni Mitchell face

afterward.

Somehow even Erick Clapton and Neil Diamond got on this one. This song
reminds me of great times that I spend with some of the finest people
that I ever met in my life. I ll never see this people again but they will
never be forgotten.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqJJd...eature=related

Bo

wdhpr · 11. Jun 2011, 06:15 AM

Thanks Bo, the links where very nice

I think maybe bibzi was eluding to listening only and then let the sound and imagination take the person through a musical journey.

However my favorite musical and visual experience was watching Yes live on-stage positioned on a slowly turning platform. Exquisite

bo.elam · 11. Jun 2011, 08:06 AM

I guess you right, sorry bibzgi.

Bo

kingkijeans · 11. Jun 2011, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bibzgi

Now it's so easy to get music. One doesn't even have to download it, one just has to use their web browser to listen to it, and even get the video of it when it was played in concert or in the music lab.

TOO EASY, NO? Listen vs. view and listen

Quote:

Originally Posted by bo.elam

I kind of like viewing and listening.

Just a thought... How about real life ambient music?

kingkijeans · 11. Jun 2011, 05:29 PM

...probably a bit of a conversation killer that, so I'll try another

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bibzgi

The sound was like opera or some cr4p...

For an example, would you like to listen to 1812 Overture or watch and listen to it on some music video? Please choose the former! Imagination counts a lot.

Well, I for one happen to like some of that "cr4p". Though I could often do without the pretentious stagings imposed on the music by many opera directors. In such cases I really do prefer not to have to watch and be free to imagine the scene in my head.

Personally, I often prefer to close my eyes during concerts in order to enhance the listening experience (hearing). Some composers, such as Sibelius, are thought to have been synaesthetes who responded visually to music. And sometimes I get that sort of 'feeling' when listening, even though I don't think I share that peculiarity.

Actually, the 1812 Overture is one piece I'd probably want to have my eyes wide open for, because it really is meant to be a spectacle - cannon shot and all.

[Btw, sorry about the clumsy nick - it was supposed to be a slightly obscure pun on genes, what with birdsong being such a weird and wonderful product of sexual selection. And then I ended up stretching the jeans even further

to avoid any risk of cens0rship... Oh and an O/T curiosity: if you try googling "sexual selection" (even without the inverted commas) practically all the links turn out to have green WOTs. In fact I've yet to find a suspicious one. So there!

]

bibzgi · 11. Jun 2011, 10:49 PM

kingkijeans, I saw another clip by the same famous nature explorer (who's name eludes me at the moment) where there was a bird in South America somewhere called something or another that cleaned up the area and did a tap dance with a wide wingspan that looked like it had a florescent 1960's smily on it if you know what I mean.

Sadly, the potential made flew away after watching the performance.

kingkigeans, that video rocked! I always thought just parakeets or something could mimic heard sounds. De boid in dat video, ha ha, superbly mimicked all sorts of sounds!

Probably I should watch more AV with the V in it, but I will never ever look at a the AV of "Riders on the Storm" by the Doors cuz that must remain completely undisturbed in the imagination.

Tomas Edison, famous American inventor and businessman, had hearing problems from youth and eventually went death. From what I recall reading somewhere, he continued his experiments with audio players by chomping on the wood to feel the vibrations.

bibzgi · 11. Jun 2011, 11:48 PM

Bo, ditto wdhpr on thanks for links.

Neil Young happens to be my all time favourite band. I used to have all the albums.

Now should I chance seeing in AV "Down by the River" and what not. by this Canadian born brilliant music star?

Will it disturb my preconceived imagination?

Ha ha, these are relatively insignificant questions. What's really important is the choice between creamy peanut butter and lumpy peanut butter.

10. Jun 2011, 04:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
bibzgi Full Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 60	Music is too easy nowadays Thomas Edison was an incredible inventor. Many of his useful products came about after testing the hell out of stuff. He may not have come up with the first ideas sometimes, but he tested the ideas galore and made many of them work in practice. When I was in my teens, I sometimes spent time at the house of my father and his second wife. My late dad's second wife had a big record player. It had doors and good speakers. I played my scratchy albums on it. I especially played the Aqualung song by Jethro Tull. In retrospect, I'm surprised that my dad's second wife never complained about this loud listening. Also, my late dad's second wife had this incredible old music player that used Edison tubes instead of flat vinyl disks. The sound was like opera or some crap and it was hard to hear clearly but it was surely an exciting improvement from when people just heard music directly from the bands and singers if they could afford to go to concert halls. Now it's so easy to get music. One doesn't even have to download it, one just has to use their web browser to listen to it, and even get the video of it when it was played in concert or in the music lab. TOO EASY, NO? Listen vs. view and listen There were instances when I liked to watch my old fart rock from the '60s and early '70s [that's last century for you young people]. It was nifty to see Janice Joplin in concert while listening to some of her songs. But for the life of me, I would rather listen to many of my old time favourite songs without seeing the videos of when they were played. For an example, would you like to listen to 1812 Overture or watch and listen to it on some music video? Please choose the former! Imagination counts a lot.

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10. Jun 2011, 06:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
wdhpr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The north Coast Posts: 1,117	I think the best sound system in the 70's was a Marantz quadraphonic sound system playing the Who's Quadrophenia album. Cheers

11. Jun 2011, 04:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
bo.elam Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,224	I kind of like viewing and listening. One of my all time favorites is the album/movie from the 1970s, The Last Waltz. The Band stayed around for many, many years usually backing up great ones like Bob Dylan and others but on this day, they were the stars. The Last Waltz was sort of like a farewell concert, were many great ones were invited to play their music and say goodbye to The Band. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Las...81978_album%29 Here is one song from The Last Waltz, this is when Neil Young joins in and plays "Helpless". On the stage you see Rick Danko and Robbie Robertson of The Band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BREYCGWOouw Bo

11. Jun 2011, 04:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
bo.elam Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,224	Alright guys, I ll give you one more from The Last Waltz. This song was the last one they played and everybody was on the stage, including some that were not singing but just having fun. Look at Neil Young's right hand on .32 Sec and Joni Mitchell face afterward. Somehow even Erick Clapton and Neil Diamond got on this one. This song reminds me of great times that I spend with some of the finest people that I ever met in my life. I ll never see this people again but they will never be forgotten. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqJJd...eature=related Bo

11. Jun 2011, 06:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
wdhpr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The north Coast Posts: 1,117	Thanks Bo, the links where very nice I think maybe bibzi was eluding to listening only and then let the sound and imagination take the person through a musical journey. However my favorite musical and visual experience was watching Yes live on-stage positioned on a slowly turning platform. Exquisite

11. Jun 2011, 08:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
bo.elam Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,224	I guess you right, sorry bibzgi. Bo

11. Jun 2011, 10:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
bibzgi Full Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 60	kingkijeans, I saw another clip by the same famous nature explorer (who's name eludes me at the moment) where there was a bird in South America somewhere called something or another that cleaned up the area and did a tap dance with a wide wingspan that looked like it had a florescent 1960's smily on it if you know what I mean. Sadly, the potential made flew away after watching the performance. kingkigeans, that video rocked! I always thought just parakeets or something could mimic heard sounds. De boid in dat video, ha ha, superbly mimicked all sorts of sounds! Probably I should watch more AV with the V in it, but I will never ever look at a the AV of "Riders on the Storm" by the Doors cuz that must remain completely undisturbed in the imagination. Tomas Edison, famous American inventor and businessman, had hearing problems from youth and eventually went death. From what I recall reading somewhere, he continued his experiments with audio players by chomping on the wood to feel the vibrations.

11. Jun 2011, 11:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
bibzgi Full Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 60	Bo, ditto wdhpr on thanks for links. Neil Young happens to be my all time favourite band. I used to have all the albums. Now should I chance seeing in AV "Down by the River" and what not. by this Canadian born brilliant music star? Will it disturb my preconceived imagination? Ha ha, these are relatively insignificant questions. What's really important is the choice between creamy peanut butter and lumpy peanut butter.