Best Free Drive Imaging Program


Disk images are the answer if you regularly need to reformat a hard drive and reload the OS and applications. You can create an image (a copy or clone) of a fairly new installation, and keep it for when your disk gets over-full of dross, crashes, or gets a bad virus infection; or if you want to create a new build with the same profile. No one who has heard of disk images now installs the OS, apps and data from scratch - unless they have a very good reason to do so. Reinstalling an image takes a tiny fraction of the time, compared to rebuilding it as per normal.

Acronis True Image was released as freeware for a short period in mid-2008, and if you managed to download it at that time, you can congratulate yourself (we gave you a big heads-up here). It is recognised as the best of the Windows online solutions (though there are some issues with Vista). This 'new' version of Acronis 8 had some incorrect configuration defaults fixed that mean it is better than ever. The faulty image creation configurations that meant system files weren't included by default were fixed; all images now include hidden files by default. Therefore you can safely ignore this issue if you are using ATI Personal v8 build 896 onward. However there are some issues with Vista and SATA disks, especially SATA RAID arrays, and even more so if you run a software RAID array via the ICH9 disk controller chip. Also bear in mind that Vista contains an integral imaging backup facility, so 3rd-party drive imaging may not be quite so vital as with other OS's.

You can still get Acronis free if you buy a new Seagate (or Maxtor) disk, as it is built in to the free Disk Utilities software they provide. These free disk tools are well worth getting and another good reason to buy a Seagate disk. It's a hefty download at 105MB though.
 

Storing your disk images
From personal experience I can tell you that there are good and bad ways to organise your disk images. My preference is with USB external hard disks - using a separate enclosure and disk. I think the best way to do this is to use an external disk enclosure, and then buy a disk to suit. You can get an IDE-ATA (eg PATA) enclosure, or a SATA enclosure. Then, buy a hard disk to suit, or use a spare disk. Always buy a USB disk enclosure with an integral fan. If you don't, the whole thing gets so hot you can fry an egg on it. As the internal temperature will be 90 degrees C or so the disk's reliability and life are bound to be affected. I use the Venus brand enclosures, there are PATA and SATA versions with fans. So as an example, you could get a Venus SATA USB enclosure with fan, and a Seagate 500GB disk to go in it. You'd also get the Seagate Disk Tools including Acronis. I believe this makes a good backup system.

USB external disk - U build it
I feel this solution is better because having just had a proprietary external hard disk die on me, I've realised the best solution is one that (a) has a cooling fan, and (b) allows you to swap the disks fast. You can't swap out the disks easily in a pre-built assembly, you need a manual on how to open it or a hammer and chisel. One you built yourself is always going to be better, even if it costs $10 more. The Venus enclosures are cable-less as well, you just slot the disk in. Sorted.
(The SATA ones are really smooth, the ATA ones need a bit of jiggery-pokery as the older power & data sockets are cruder.) See the linked heading above, to jump to more tech info at the foot of the page.
 

Now the Acronis freeware download has been discontinued, other freeware drive imaging programs are back in the limelight. None come close to matching the extensive feature set of Acronis TI or its near commercial rivals; but in some cases they're easier to use.

Some of the freeware drive imaging programs work by booting from a diskette or CD, loading a lightweight Linux environment, and then executing a command. This limits their use to offline imaging - only meaning that they cannot be used within Windows while it is running. However, these programs are small and fast, and while they might not offer the entire suite of features that the commercial programs boast, they do perform the core drive imaging tasks quite well.

G4U - Ghost for Unix has a comprehensive set of advanced features, and is many people's preferred solution at present. G4U is a very small program that can be downloaded in either boot diskette or CD format and offers a lot of features. Not only can it clone disk to disk (any size) and copy disk partitions, it can also create and restore image files both locally and from an FTP site, if the workstation is connected to a wired network with a DCHP service. This feature is great for backing up a workstation directly to an image file stored on another computer for either safekeeping, or for deployment to multiple workstations on the network. The various features of G4U are implemented by executing commands via the console, but a reference of the simple commands is displayed immediately after booting using the G4U boot media.

G4U will suit users who are happy using the command line console; and it also has the feature set more adventurous users may need.

DriveImage XML will suit users running Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 who need a normal Windows GUI (on-screen) solution. It uses the Volume Shadow Copy Service to backup drive and partitions to image files, or will clone drive to drive while Windows is running. Because of this, a Windows task can also be created and scheduled to automatically create backup images. While this program can perform the tasks it promises, backups do take longer than using one of the offline programs previously mentioned. However, because it can create scheduled backup images while Windows is running, it's great for running online backup images as a redundancy option, in addition to the offline backups you will probably want to make as your main images. With its attractive GUI interface, it will be an easy first choice for many XP users. It's easy to use and reliable, and the use of XML means the image has more repurposing options than usual.

HDClone Free Edition is the one if you aren't a dyed-in-the-wool techie, if you only need to transfer one disk's contents to another - the free version can't create or restore disk images, so take note of that. It's straightforward - unlike many of the alternatives - and acts via a GUI, unlike some. Just in case you aren't clear what that means exactly, it refers to the fact that it runs just like any other modern Windows program, and not like a DOS text / keyboard-only program from 15 years ago (or some Linux operations today).

It's worth a look if the only functionality that's needed is to clone one disk to another larger disk. It is a relatively small download, can be run from either a diskette or CD, and has a graphical user interface that makes it super-easy to use. HDClone requires no command line interaction and is perfect for upgrading from one hard drive to another. Remember, the Free Edition of HDClone is not capable of creating or restoring image files -  or cloning from a larger disk to a smaller disk, or working with individual disk partitions.

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To be reviewed:
Macrium Reflect
GParted-Clonezilla LiveCD
SelfImage
XXClone
CloneZilla
DigitalDolly

Products that will not be reviewed as they do not appear to be suitable:

Apricorn EZ Gig II
Acronis Disk Director
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HDclone Free Edition
Website:
http://www.miray.de/products/sat.hdclone.html

Download link:
http://www.miray.de/download/sat.hdclone.html

Author:  Miray Software
Current version: 3.2.10
File Size: 4.1MB
License: Limited functionality freeware
Operating Systems Supported: OS and file system independent but no USB functionality
64 bit capable: No
Any special system requirements: No
Portable version available: This product is self booting
Additional software required : None

G4U
Website:
http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
Download link:
http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#reqs

Author: Hubert Feyrer
Current version: 2.3
File Size: 3.1MB (CD ISO version)
License: Freeware
Operating Systems Supported: OS and file system independent but no USB functionality
64 bit capable: No
Any special system requirements: No
Portable version available: This product is self booting
Additional software required : None

DriveImage XML
Website:
www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm
Download link: www.runtime.org/data-recovery-downloads.htm
Author: Runtime Software
Current version: 1.21
File Size:1.5MB
License: Freeware
Operating Systems Supported: Windows XP, Vista
64 bit capable: No
Any special system requirements: No
Portable version available: No
Additional software required : None. Can also be incorporated into a Bart PE Boot Disk.

Acronis True Image 8.0
Website: http://www.acronis.com
Download: available only within disk manufacturers' software bundle, see Note below
Author: Acronis
Current version: v11
Filesize: [21MB] integral with Disk Utilities bundle
License: Freeware (v8 only)
Operating Systems Supported: Windows 98, 2K, XP (and Vista, only with manufacturers' utilities) 1
64 bit capable: No
Any special system requirements: No - but I advise the use of an external USB hard drive for the images
Portable version available: No
Additional software required: No

USB external disk assemblies
Get your own box and hard disk, and put them together for a better system than you can buy. You need a SATA or ATA box, according to the drive you've got spare. If you're buying new, get a big SATA disk and choose a box to suit. It's well complex at the moment, there is SATA, SATA2, eSATA, and maybe more...  This is why I don't buy into any new tech for a year or two, it's a nightmare. Anyway: I could tell you to google for the boxes, but I tried and there were a zillion results, mostly wrong, so here's a link to a UK firm that does the SATA (but not ATA) versions:
www.scan.co.uk/Search.aspx?q=venus+usb
The boxes I use are:- 
ATA: Venus USB external hard disk enclosure with fan, JJ-23VB2
SATA1&2: Venus USB external hard disk enclosure with fan, JJ-23VSU
You'll have to find a national mail-order firm in your region. In the UK I used Scan (SATA versions) and Misco (ATA version). Note that these are the new box versions from Venus (actually Jou-Jye at jj-computer.com). Take a look at the page link I gave above, and look at the boxes' appearance (oval edge shape). A lot of wholesalers (especially in the US it seems) still have the old version with a squarer shape, black, and large end-caps. I don't think you want that one.
I don't stand the disk boxes on edge, I stick 4 rubber feet on them and lay them flat. Up to you I guess, it just makes me happier to have them work 'right way up'.

Note 1:
if you are using a new Maxtor or Seagate drive to back up to, the free downloadable Maxtor or Seagate utilities has a limited version of Acronis that works with Vista (though maybe not for multi-SATA disk arrays).

Contributors
Valuable contributions to this category have been made by: Ted, Ron T., graybrother, Adrian Cornforth.


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After the recent Express by Paragon, we now have another freebie, O&O Diskimage Express. This is probably one of the more minimalistic interfaces ever. A bit limited for me.

http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/products/oodiskimageexpress/

HI Please review this page,and add Paragon Drive Backup 9.0 Express too.Acronis 150 MB installer!!!,like other comment said it has running processes,you know using RAM 24/7,if you will uninstall it(although the main of a program like this is too remain on the pc) in many cases will damage your MBR.
This beeing said i'm a fanboy of Paragon never failed on my pc,although i'm sure acronis never failed on many's users pc,but that doesn't excuse it's bloat.It's like a plague slowly taking control of your pc.I have the paid version of Drive Back-up,but as other user noted they offer a good free version,with all the features you need IMO for a program like this.
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/features.html

Why there isn't SnapShot, the best drive imaging program, http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/intro.htm? It is recommended by Steve Gibson, www.grc.com. Although it isn't freeware but it works fully for 30 days, after that it allows only to restore drive images, but this is all you need.

Does anyone know where I can get a TI Version 8 BartPE plugin. The Link on the Acronis Suport page leads to nothing. There's supposed to be a free download.

If you google 'acronis bartpe plugins' there are thousands of pages in the result. Work down through some of them?

chris.p

I've downloaded and installed Macrium Reflect and built a BartPE disk incorporating the plugin provided. This looks to me to be the ideal setup. Many thanks to all for pointing the way to this excellent programme.
On my first Image creation I had to reboot because Reflect couldn't unlock my C: drive. I recall having a similar issue with another tool sometime ago. Something to do with the Shadow Copy feature.

I have two questions:

Do you advise uninstalling Acronis now to avoid possible conflicts?

What do you consider a reasonable list of plugins to build into my BartPE disk?

I don't think Acronis will conflict but if you aren't going to use it, uninstall it. It has a process running 24/7 in the background and you don't want that. Best to lose any unwanted apps in any case, I reckon.

Check via Task Manager and look at all running processes. Any for apps you don't use now, get rid of the application. Disk managers, defraggers, all those sorts of things tend to have a process running 24/7 and you should get rid of old ones.

chris.p

Thanks for that, for that, Chris.p

I've followed your advice and uninstalled Acronis. See how we go.

Ted from Cambridge New Zealand.
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Another point for Macrium Reflect. Downloaded free version based on references in these posts..thanks all...it's amazingly fast. Tutorial page shows you exactly where to click. Screenshots are accurate with the actual GUI.
Tried Acronis once and it was way to complex.

There's always been something about imaging that I couldn't get my head around, but this simple program cleared that up. Great support on their forum as well. If your new to Imaging, this be the one.

Hi, thanks for the points on Macrium.

I definitely have to review this and no mistake. I've had some problems here though - I've lost 3 disks in the last month: my main backup USB drive, my server, and my main work PC. All the disks died within 4 weeks. Somebody up there doesn't like me. But I'm getting back into it now and I sure appreciate the value of backups.

Macrium is first on the list when I *finally* recover.

chris.p

Have you uninstalled Acronis ? Everything is OK ? The Acronis uninstaller is just like Norton's, a true nightmare. I uninstalled with Revo, who could find 650 entries and +15 folders to be removed, and beside's that, I had to remove 2 drivers and + 150 values from the registry manually. Acronis nowadays is excellent...

Hi

I just saw that Paragon has a free image backup program. It seems that it has a bootable USB Flash Drive feature to restore the drive.
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/

I haven't tried it yet, but looks interesting:

Backup Features

* Backup Entire PC - backup an entire hard disk or separate partitions
* Perform Live Backups - Paragon Hot Backup® technology creates backup images without restarting Windows
* Storage options for your backups - Save backup images to local drives or external USB or Firewire Devices
* Interrupt backup operations if necessary
* Check archive validity of existing archives or when creating new ones
* Supports USB 2.0 hard drives

Recovery

* Restore an entire hard disk, separate partitions or any combination of disks and partitions from one archive
* Create bootable USB Flash drive, CD or DVD to recover your PC on demand

Supplementary Tools

* Recovery Media Builder: builds a new "recovery media" to boot from in case of an unbootable system
* Check Recovery Discs: checks the recovery media for integrity and boot ability

User Interface Features

* Wizard driven User Interface for the majority of operations
* Contextual Help for all User Interface controls

Supported Operating Systems
o Windows Vista (32/64-bit)
o Windows XP Professional SP2 (32/64-bit)
o Windows XP Home SP2
o Windows 2000 Professional SP4
o For server operating systems backup see Paragon Drive Backup Server Edition

Supported Hard Drives and Removable Media
o Parallel ATA (IDE) HDD
o Serial ATA (SATA) HDD
o SCSI HDD
o All levels of SCSI, IDE and SATA RAID controllers
o USB 1.x/2.0 and IEEE 1394 (FireWire) devices
o PC card storage devices

Supported File Systems
o NTFS (v1.2, v3.0, v3.1)
o FAT16
o FAT32
o Linux Ext2FS
o Linux Ext3FS
o Linux Swap
o HPFS

System Requirements
o CPU: Intel Pentium or compatible, 300MHz or higher processor
o RAM: 256 MB or greater recommended
o Disk space: 100 Mb
o Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher

Download Seagate DiscWizard

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/discwizard

Scroll down and do a quick scan through the
"Learn more about DiscWizard" PDF
You'll see why I think it looks great!

I downloaded the 125mb file a few minutes ago and will try it out tonight
Aug 08, 2008
H

GPARTED-CLONEZILLA LiveCD

I have tested this program.It works perfectly for OS: Windows 2003 Server, Windows Vista and Xp.

I can second this. I have been completely amazed by GParted Clonezilla LiveCD. I just cloned my laptop hard drive to a second hard drive I have attached via a USB cable kit. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it recognized the second drive and cloned the first drive to it perfectly.

"Partition Saving" is another great program. I used it for a few years and it worked quite well (really!).
http://damien.guibouret.free.fr/en/index.html

I have discovered that there is still a way to get a free copy of True Image if you have a Seagate or Maxtor drive in your system. You can download a copy of Seatools free from www.seagate.com with no registration required if you allow the website to detect that you have a Seagate or Maxtor drive in your system. The latest Seatools is a thinly disguised True Image 8 Personal with some other Seagate tools (clone disk etc.) added. It is a hefty 100MB download but it could be worth it if you can't get it any other way.

Ian

Hi Ian,

It was mentioned within the article, but I guess it was kind of hidden. A couple of days back I had to do a major edit when the Acronis free download was terminated, so I included more material on that Seagate tools download.

Also I bought a new Seagate disk and checked out the Disk Tools fully. As you say it's a good solution and maybe it should be brought to people's attention better - so I did an edit and made sure it is a prominent feature now. It also aligns well with a section I put in about exactly how you can keep your disk images.

I had to butcher a USB external drive in order to get the disk out and I figured I might as well comment on that, it's directly relevant to the article subject matter as you need to store your images securely. There are good and not so good ways to buy USB disks, and like PCs, I figure the best one is the one you build yourself. You don't have to put up with manufacturers' cost cutting.

chris

chris

Does any one know Paragon Hard Disk Manager? They have a free offer for 8.0 Special Edition which looks like their PHDM 2008. Is this more reliable than Acronis?

Looks like a good deal if you can get it free.

I tried Paragon Drive Copy years ago and it wasn't much use - but that's hardly relevant now. Their package looks good because you get all the disk tools in one shot, never a bad idea. I've used Ontrack's Fix-It Utilities a lot and never regretted it. Most of these disk tool packages tend to be on the conservative side so you probably don't get the latest whizz-bang stuff, but any way that's a good policy with disks. Registry cleaners can be real sinners, you're better off with a safe one.

Since you can't get Acronis for free any more (except within Seagate's tools etc), and since this is a complete drive manager package, I'd say it looks like a good deal. As it's free you can't really go wrong, can you?

If you were paying, then I'd say search Google, and go down to page 10 looking for dissatisfied customers - but freemans, you can't argue. It's more than likely you'll be able to find individual apps that do each task better - if you had the time and inclination. These grouped applications make sense to me. Go for it.

chris

Hi chris, I'm using TI 11 for a while now, and I can't say I like it. I think Acronis TI is two folded: you have their marketing, which is quick, effective and it tells you what you want to ear, and you have users experience - TI compatibility problems, random errors and a long list of dissatisfied customers in their dreadful forum. TI is the type of product that you never know when is going to let you down, there's never a simple fix: I don't trust TI, hence I'm searching for an alternative.

I'm looking for a reliable image tool - I don't need those aditional tools they put in each package to justify their value -, one that backups and restore's without hasles and that works for Vista, which do you recommend? Drive Image XML or Paragon? Does Drive Image keep the programs saved settings? - this is critical for me.

OK, I hear what you're saying. It's not common (until recently) to hear about Acronis being problematic but if lots of people say so, I guess it must be. Looks to me like this is all about SATA multiple disk problems. Me, I never had any issues with Acronis and as far as I'm concerned I'd never use anything else. Only trouble is I run on PCs I build myself and they last a very, very long time. Razor sharp and super fast - in practical terms of course - in other words a window is open as your finger leaves the mouse button, not 2 seconds later; you can network with anything else instantly; you can multi-task and handle tough jobs in a reasonable time. Of course, these are IDE-ATA machines running on W2K because that is the fastest set-up for most tasks, everyday work, networking etc. This arrangement works for everyday use at lightning speed and networks with anything else instantly. I don't need the problems that go with XP networking, Vista and SATA RAID arrays, and all the rest of it. Why should I?

I'm sorry I'm a conservative where hardware (and software) are concerned but I let other people work the bleeding edge now, I don't have the time or money to do otherwise. As I don't do massive number crunching jobs or DV editing I don't need to max out on my gear. I just like a fast and reliable set-up. I let you boys find out what the downside to the new stuff is.

So when my IDE-based mainboards and my ATA disks have all died, we'll be on SATA 4 or 5 and the problems will have been ironed out. At that stage I'll be happy to buy in. But I'm an old engineer and I learnt long ago that simple is best, and to let other people have all the misery of developing new stuff. There is a school of thought that says if you buy any Microsoft product or any new hardware in its first 2 years, you are just a beta tester (not that I subscribe to it of course). Me, I'd want to be paid for that.

So I'd go for simple and reliable. There's one normally-successful route to that in software and it's open-source. Try Clonezilla as although it may not have the bells and whistles it should be solid. Otherwise, if you are running new software or hardware (ie anything that hasn't been around in its present form for 2 years), then consider finding the best paid-for solution. Shadow Protect looks a capable contender that might deal with the latest systems (thanks to Someone for that); also Macrium. I'd do 2 things:
1. Email their sales support and lay out what you need to do. Be very specific and get a clear, signed reply (not from 'support') that confirms each one of your points (eg Vista compatible, SATA RAID, holds user program settings, and whatever your other specific needs are).
2. If that's satisfactory then Google 'shadow protect', 'shadow protect problems', 'shadow protect issues', and go down to page 10 looking for gripes.

And let us know what happens.

chris

"If you buy any Microsoft product or any new hardware in its first 2 years, you are just a beta tester. ......... Me, I'd want to be paid for that."
- I agree, please tell me how to.

I don't speak for other users and I don't have your formation. I say I don't trust ATI because of it's behaviour. I have Vista SP1 and SATA drives, I know I can't do a partial image restore without startup repair, http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=173214. This is not advertised, I didn't pay for it, I discover it later. Scheduler also don't work for me. Every time I open the program I get a NTFS error, http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=175737&page=2&highlight=..., and to fix it I have to reboot. Acronis say ignore the error, MS claims the problem is fixed on SP1, but the problem remains if you have the pagefile in other drive. Because of this you can't perform 2 tasks in the same session. If I would use it more than once/month, i would be really pissed. This is a program you have to think twice before updating, http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=214184. They haven't been able to fix the majority of errors, lately they decided not to give you a complete change log. Latest build didn't update for more than 5 months, and it didn't really fix anything. I don't trust a program/company that works like this.

I will try DriveImage XML - I've been reading very positive feedback on this, I don't need the bells and whistles of ATI, just a program I know it works -, Clonezilla and if that doesn't work, Shadow Protect. Thank you chris.

I don't see how DriveImage XML can be the answer for you.....sure it's fine provided you have access to your OS but what if the OS becomes so badly corrupted or infected that it is no longer usable?? The only way you could boot and access DriveImage would be via BartPE CD and that does not support Vista...and even if it did, you are still left with the problem of the bootable CD not recognising the SATA drives. So, you are fine so long as you can boot to OS but otherwise it would be useless.
I have given up on Acronis TI too but after trying most freeware alternatives I went for a commercial product..."Casper 5.0"....I have no regrets, it is terrific. Casper does not create a disk image but rather clones a fully bootable/usable exact copy to a second hard drive. It is quick and easy to use and comparatively, reasonably priced.

http://www.fssdev.com/

cheers....JIM

Casper eh...? Never heard of it, but will have a look.

You can use DriveImage XML with the UBCD4Win (3.13, 3.20 is still buggy) plugin which is compatible with Vista: the source build is SP2, sure, but personaly I don't have any problems booting or recognising the SATA drives. Check their url below.

http://www.ubcd4win.com/

I didn't knew before, but the System Restore in Vista - any version - is using Shadow Copy, and if your system turns unbootable Windows RE runs automatically without the need of any Boot CD. So I would say that with a good defense and common sense the advantage of using DriveImage XML, Macrium or any imaging software that uses Shadow Copy is really minimal nowadays... it's built in Vista...

Thanks!

You are saying that UBCD4Win works okay with Vista, even though Vista is not listed as a supported OS? How did you build the boot CD then, what did you use for slipstreaming, your Vista installation CD?

It has long been my understanding that Windows RE is available in the higher versions of Vista only, i.e. it is not included with Vista Home Basic nor Vista Home Premium...is that wrong?

cheers....JIM

Have a look at their FAQ: http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm#vista

I build the CD in my Vista "host" using a XP SP2 source, splipstreamed with the UBCD4Win Builder (go to Source menu>select Slipstream); it works flawlesly. The only problem I've found is that you cannot use that Vista *.iso to build a UFD Boot Stick (UFD= USB Flash Drive) but you do have to remember that there are no specs for UFD Boot, each manufactor uses it's own. Not sure if this is a problem with my HP.

No, RE is included in all Vista's. Until I had problems - last week - I though you had to insert the Vista CD to get the RE, but not so: when my PC did not boot RE popup without intervention. It's not fast though, I can tell you it was 60" (ATI retores my whole drive in just 7") trying to fix the boot problems - rebuilding bootmgr ?!? - and the fix was to use System Restore. You are probably confusing with the "Complete PC Backup" feature, only available in Business, Enterprise and Ultimate.

Thanks for the info there.

It looks like Acronis is NFG for Vista / SATA then, which I guess would be a large number of people now. That's bad news if you had to pay for it. You should get a refund, and I wonder if anyone did.

It would be nice to find a freeware disk imaging program that works on Vista, with SATA disks (and especially a bunch of them), and maybe someone will find a good solution. I just apologise that it won't be me as I don't have that gear.

chris.p

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